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Those that have followed my posts on this subject will know that I am a victim of the worst possible leg cramp, i.e., total immobility and on one occasion falling unconscious with the pain.
Over eight years ago I was prescribed Quinine Sulphate and, until a few months ago, never had even one twinge of cramp of any kind. However, that 'honeymoon' was ended when my specialist said that such prolonged use had irrevocably damaged my kidneys and that I am now CKD at Stage 3 and very likely to progress to Stage 4/5.
I had always thought until now that when the cramps returned, which they have with a vengeance, I could always look to Magnesium Citrate, Sulphate or Chloride to help me. BUT have just been told that the kidneys cannot excrete Magnesium when at Stage 4 or 5.
Last two nights have been almost as bad as when first 'attacked' all those years ago (which were obviously a precursor or sign that I was an undiagnosed Diabetic then) so, I reluctantly took a Lyrica capsule which calmed matters down over the next two hours.
Lyrica is not a preventative, with many side effects, but a palliative - QS and Mag are proactive. The most severe leg cramps not only hurt like hell for perhaps two or more hours but damage muscles and tendons in the affected leg(s) for perhaps two days and affecting walking afterwards.
My Question is - does anyone know an alternative to QS, Mag or Lyrica that can help me because going to bed is becoming a nightmare ha ha ha? This condition can sometimes come on while I am riding my motorcycle and I have to stand up on the pedals or stick my leg out at right angles - imagine the thoughts of those driving behind me lol? Please do not suggested Sodium Chloride because have tried that and it did not help one iota.
Thankyou for your patience,
Rob
Over eight years ago I was prescribed Quinine Sulphate and, until a few months ago, never had even one twinge of cramp of any kind. However, that 'honeymoon' was ended when my specialist said that such prolonged use had irrevocably damaged my kidneys and that I am now CKD at Stage 3 and very likely to progress to Stage 4/5.
I had always thought until now that when the cramps returned, which they have with a vengeance, I could always look to Magnesium Citrate, Sulphate or Chloride to help me. BUT have just been told that the kidneys cannot excrete Magnesium when at Stage 4 or 5.
Last two nights have been almost as bad as when first 'attacked' all those years ago (which were obviously a precursor or sign that I was an undiagnosed Diabetic then) so, I reluctantly took a Lyrica capsule which calmed matters down over the next two hours.
Lyrica is not a preventative, with many side effects, but a palliative - QS and Mag are proactive. The most severe leg cramps not only hurt like hell for perhaps two or more hours but damage muscles and tendons in the affected leg(s) for perhaps two days and affecting walking afterwards.
My Question is - does anyone know an alternative to QS, Mag or Lyrica that can help me because going to bed is becoming a nightmare ha ha ha? This condition can sometimes come on while I am riding my motorcycle and I have to stand up on the pedals or stick my leg out at right angles - imagine the thoughts of those driving behind me lol? Please do not suggested Sodium Chloride because have tried that and it did not help one iota.
Thankyou for your patience,
Rob