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Libre for sport not diabetes

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by HSSS, May 24, 2022.

  1. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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    I’ve been reading an ad for supersapiens which is basically an Abbott libre rebranding for athletic fuelling and training purposes.

    There is a definite subset of responses from type 1 suggesting it is “insulting” and “offensive” and “pointless” that these items be used by non type 1’s and even worse non diabetics. Despite the fact that athletes pay for them privately and I think a subscription/membership that goes with it, the shortages and difficulties for accessing the free on the nhs were mentioned a lot too. (Are their still actual shortages as opposed to prescribing limitations/hurdles?). A few have pointed out the uses for food choices and responses (relevant for type 2) and how the wider market will allow lower prices and improved tech research and especially for kids make the sensors more normalised.

    I was wondering how the almost exclusively diabetic membership here saw the issue.
     
  2. Antje77

    Antje77 LADA · Moderator
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    Perfectly fine, provided there are no shortages for diabetics, and I'm not aware of any shortages at the moment.

    People can spend their money on whatever they like.
    I don't understand why you would, but then again, I don't understand why you would spend a lot of money on fishing gear, a 600 euro dress or an all inclusive cruise with a swimming pool and a casino.

    It's not like they're taking away from others (well, apart from the much deeper philosophical questions on rich and poor, which is not the issue here), live and let live.
    Are those people insulted and offended when their friends ask if they can do a bg test with their machine as well?
     
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  3. Riva_Roxaban

    Riva_Roxaban Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Gotta agree with this @Antje77.

    Edit: Fix tag
     
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    #3 Riva_Roxaban, May 25, 2022 at 12:53 AM
    Last edited: May 25, 2022
  4. Hotpepper20000

    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    I think it’s great that people are starting to use the Abbott libre that don’t have diabetes. I think the more the public sees how blood sugar reacts to food, exercise, and sleep, it will might make them change their habits.
     
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  5. Jaylee

    Jaylee Type 1 · Moderator
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    Hi,

    A link to the product would be cool. So we are referencing the same thing?
    But from what I've found on it. The CGM app side of things looks familiar. Reminds me a little of the Diabox app I use.
     
  6. In Response

    In Response Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    The Supersappien sensor was released a few years ago. Perhaps there was a Libre shortage at the time.
    The app is different to the librelink app we use and is not developed by Abbott. It is developed by a company who specialise in sports science as it provides training information.
    I have no problem with it being used by athletes to improve their performance. However, the professional cycling body (maybe UCI) have banned it from their races. This caused outcry from the NovoNordisk team (a team of elite road cyclists who all have Type 1 diabetes) and I believe it was agreed they could use CGMs
     
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  7. LeftPeg

    LeftPeg Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If CGM use increases among the general population, it will only help drive down the cost for everybody, including diabetics. It's all good really.
     
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    In Response Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    FYI - this is Supersapiens system.
    It is not a standard Libre system - it is the size of a Libre 1/2 but streams data in real time over bluetooth. (I guess it could be using the equivalent of OOP2 exploited by xDrip+).
    As I mentioned earlier, this not a new thing. It has been around for a few years and not had a huge uptake so I doubt if it will cause a big enough increase in demand to drive down the cost or affect the supplies of Libre.
     
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  9. jape

    jape Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    People need to be less busybodies. They should keep their noses out of what other people are doing! Be concerned with your own health period!
     
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  10. Nicki70

    Nicki70 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I am a type 2 and have a Libre 2 as I am on insulin (as well as a whole host of cancer drugs that drive up blood glucose).
     
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  11. Zhnyaka

    Zhnyaka Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I have nothing against it, but I am very interested in what gives knowledge of BG to athletes
     
  12. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Expert

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  13. Jaylee

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    You may find this vlog review interesting..?
    The guy attempted to start the sensor by pushing an object into the centre hole. & thought he could ease the annoyance of the device by sleeping on it..? Thought the app was going to be some sort of fuelling wizard? (Calculate it all for him?)

    A fascinating insight of one user..

     
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  14. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I use the Libre every 6 months or so to check everything. Everything for me means averages, post-prandial rises, exercise responses. My main purpose is the post-prandial response, this I think is the key glucose metric (assuming the starting point is good). If only I could keep the unit on to the end of 14 days. What would help me is a sports version, perhaps options for grippier adhesive like the type you get with hospital bandages, or a snug fit over plaster.

    In the early stages of diabetes, I believe CGM''s are the very best adjudicator of what foods really work, it's very hard to argue the results with an inanimate object. If there were shortages I think T1's and insulin dependent T2's should get priority, otherwise I think the wider the usage the better... so many bury their heads in the shortbread or should I say sand.
     
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  15. EllieM

    EllieM Type 1 · Moderator
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    That was very entertaining....
     
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  16. Jaylee

    Jaylee Type 1 · Moderator
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    Seemed like a nice lad but ..
    Bang. Looked like he put it straight in the muscle for starter?

    But hey ho, “bio hackers.”
     
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  17. becca59

    becca59 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    As long as there are no supply issues for those requiring it for medical reasons. It really doesn’t matter who uses it. In fact the more who do the More Abbott will strive to perfect as there will be more cash in the pot.
     
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