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Low carb snacking and type 1

Discussion in 'Type 1 Diabetes' started by helensaramay, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. ert

    ert Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Scott-C, I certainly am pleased with my MM. I haven't tried X-Drip. I'll try to download it tonight and give it a go. Cheers.
     
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    ert Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Helensaramay, I certainly had glucogenesis before insulin. My blood sugars would immediately rise above 13 mmol/l overnight as soon as I went to bed at 9 pm after eating dinner at 5 pm and not snacking.
    I'm going to try your diluted juice in a bottle idea for my run tonight. I'm scared of sugar. Thank you.
     
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    MeiChanski Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    For me it goes by what @Antje77 said, sometimes you got a small amount of insulin spare in your window for a small low carb snack. However I do find I need some insulin for protein and fat, on the libre it'll be a gentle slope going up by 1-2 levels.
    For carby snacks, it'll be a pay as you go system, a bit of everything like a snacky platter. :hilarious:
    However if I get my insulin right for my meals and the meal has enough protein, I find I don't need to snack. Unfortunately in the past, I have hypoed for insulin stacking for snacks and meals - something ridiculous like 8 small meals and 3 small snacks.
     
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    Alison54321 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Cucumber?
     
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  5. helensaramay

    helensaramay Type 1 · Expert

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    Not a bad thought. Especially as today’s veg box contained Cucumelons.
     
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  6. michita

    michita Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I love chopped cucumbers marinated in soy sauce, a bit of sesame oil, chopped chilli and garlic and Chinese chilli bean sauce.
     
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    MeiChanski Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    with a bit of sea salt? :)
     
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  8. MeiChanski

    MeiChanski Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I've had cucumbers dipped in Vietnamese home made dressing - substituted the sugar and fish sauce for lemon, extra garlic and sweetener. If you have girlfriends, boyfriends, husbands and wives, I'm sorry but your breath is going to stink for a few days because of the fresh garlic. :hilarious::hilarious:
     
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    michita Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    :)
     
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    Antje77 LADA · Moderator
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    Love this analogy!
     
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    becca59 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Are they the little round ones that you peel. Have grown some of those this year and they have been very successful. Eat about 2/3 a day like an apple, fresh from the greenhouse.
     
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  12. helensaramay

    helensaramay Type 1 · Expert

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    They look like hairless gooseberries and
    I didn't bother peeling them because I forgot they weren't goosegogs.
    The skin is a bit tough but edible and the fruit tastes like slightly sour cucumber.
    At least the one I had today was.
    I didn't weigh it or check the bg impact.
    I'll be more scientific for the next one.
     
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    becca59 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Ah no mine are larger and you definitely have to peel or they would prick your tongue IMG_1565676735.956118.jpg IMG_1565676757.652103.jpg
    Last nights greenhouse haul and size comparison with an apple.
     
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    I made the mistake of eating Skyr yoghurts! Levels went sky-high.
     
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    JAT1 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Cheese with a tomato or cucumber.
     
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    philly1991 Type 1 · Active Member

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    Egg muffins! They're actually a god send. With cheese because it's free and things like mushroom or pepper but can experiment with all sorts.
     
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    helensaramay Type 1 · Expert

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    I eat egg muffins for breakfast but the protein in the eggs mean I still need to inject insulin so, regardless what I add to them (and I do not want to eat cheese every day), they are not free.
    I like to add spicy sauce (usually piri piri) as well as whatever veggies I have in the fridge including peppers, mushrooms, spring onions, courgettes, tomatoes, aubergines, fresh herbs, ....
    If I have no fresh veggies, I add sundried tomatoes.

    But still need the insulin :arghh:
     
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  18. philly1991

    philly1991 Type 1 · Active Member

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    @helensaramay they sound delicious and definitely alot more creative than the ones I make!
     
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    becca59 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes I too have found protein meals far too hard to manage. Cannot eat without insulin. By just adding a small amount of carbs I need less insulin.
     
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    kitedoc Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    On very low carb diets, say 30 g or less per day one does not snack between as a TID. The protein component of each meal will tend to raise bsls at the 3 hour plus mark. And the insulin doses and perhaps split doses at that is to cater for this, not for a snack between meals which just sets up the risk of more carbs or protein input.
    It seems at the less than 30 g carbs per day that spare protein is converted to glucose by the liver hence the moderate bsl at the 3 hour ( approx) mark. This is the gluconeogenesis queried in answers above.
    The question of snacks in general, as also discussed in answers above raises the question of why are we advised to snack as TIDs between meals? My view is that with higher carb diets the larger insulin doses needed can tend to push bsls down after meals and the snack is a hedge against this. Just like the supper before bedtime might be used as a defence against a late evening, or night hypo.
     
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