Low carbs do not always work

[Maybird]

Someone on here recently said a low carb diet is the only way to control BG levels I did object to him saying that as he was more or less saying because it works for him everyone should do it
I am pre-diabetic and have had what would probably be considered a low carb diet for years and don't eat much in the way of starchy foods
This is not because of my prediabetes but something that is normal for me I simply don't like them bread is usually just two slices of toast with whatever I have for breakfast, I hardy ever eat sandwiches and I don't like pasta rice cakes and biscuits I do eat plenty of vegetables and fruit yet I still have above what is considered normal GB levels
I have had a glucose intolerance for years and each year at my yearly blood test my levels go up a bit more hence now prediabetic



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[Andy12345]

chemotherapy dosent always work in curing cancer, that dosent mean that for the vast majority it is extremely effective, i dont think there has ever been a single treatment for anything that has worked for absolutely everyone, i am an advocate of low carbing but if someone tried it and it wasnt effective then they should seek a different route, i believe for the vast vast majority it would be effective, what i dont understand is people damning it before they have tried it

 

[mo1905]

Not too sure what you're actually saying ? So, do you agree with low carb for diabetes or not ? Sorry, read it a couple of times and not too sure what the message is. Good to see it's working for you though. Also, I agree that certain things don't work for everyone but I've never yet heard of a high carb diet helping any diabetics.

 

[carty]

The problem here is How high would your BGs be if you were eating a high carb diet ? The only way to know what our diet does is to test our BGs
CAROL

 

[Mongoose39uk]

I tried it

1) It did not work for me, there was no significant difference in the 2 months.

2) For me it is neither palatable or sustainable.

 

[Mongoose39uk]

Not too sure what you're actually saying ? So, do you agree with low carb for diabetes or not ? Sorry, read it a couple of times and not too sure what the message is. Good to see it's working for you though. Also, I agree that certain things don't work for everyone but I've never yet heard of a high carb diet helping any diabetics.

I don't think a high carb diet is mentioned. Really just not the very low carb diets that some on here suggest.

 

[mo1905]

Can't see very low carb diet mentioned either lol ! Each to their own. I think we all agree that reducing carbs helps though. At what level that is will vary.
Mo


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[Andy12345]

I tried it

1) It did not work for me, there was no significant difference in the 2 months.

2) For me it is neither palatable or sustainable.

thats fair enough, i almost wished it wasnt so effective for me hehe, i really dont see how reducing carbs cannot work, if as i think is right, carbs turn into sugar or glucose then reducing them has to bring down the levels of sugar in our bodies, unless im missing something important?

 

[WhitbyJet]

I tried it

1) It did not work for me, there was no significant difference in the 2 months.

2) For me it is neither palatable or sustainable.

You need to be able to enjoy your food, if you dont you will fall off the wagon.
I am lucky, I am one of those weirdos who genuinely enjoy the lchf lifestyle but I know plenty of fellow diabetics who cant handle it, to them it would be sheer torture.
People need to find their own way, lchf is not the only option of achieving good bg levels.

All the best x

 

[Andy12345]

I tried it

1) It did not work for me, there was no significant difference in the 2 months.

2) For me it is neither palatable or sustainable.

You need to be able to enjoy your food, if you dont you will fall off the wagon.
I am lucky, I am one of those weirdos who genuinely enjoy the lchf lifestyle but I know plenty of fellow diabetics who cant handle it, to them it would be sheer torture.
People need to find their own way, lchf is not the only option of achieving good bg levels.

All the best x

that makes perfect sense, as always Mrs Jet

 

[Mongoose39uk]

I agree it has to be what works for the individual

Andy the metabolism of food to energy in our bodies is way to complicated for me to completely understand, no chance of me explaining it


I found more complex carbs and more importantly for me when I eat them (still reduced amounts but not low carb) works well.

I am down to one 500 mg met a day and if the hbac1 stays at am acceptable ( to me) level at the end of January they go in the bin.




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[hanadr]

What I think is at issue is; how many carbs per day constitute a low carb diet?
A lot of so-called experts, think that we need about 300 carbs per day this is an estimate based on false assumptions!]. thus low to them would be any number significantly below that.
However Richard Bernstein, a doctor specialising in treating diabetes for many years and T1 himself, advocates 6 grams carb for breakfast and 12 each for lunch and dinner.
Robert Atkins, who was also a doctor devised his low carb weight-loss plan for his cardiac patients, also advised a very low carb approach. I haven't done the sums, but Ithink it's in the region of 30 grams of carb per day also, it could even be lower!.
I personally find that if I stray far from this level of carb, my bg goes up out of my target zone [below 6.5 at all times].
So to say a low carb approach doesn't work, have you REALLY tried it?
I'm aware that for some people a slight reduction in carbs is sufficient to control bg, but in many, a TRULY low carb approach is needed. I've never come across anyone who really held their carbs down, who didn't see a very significant improvement in their numbers. In fact, there are perfectly good metabloic reasons why it MUST work.
Hana
PS if you get used to it, it's no hardship to stick to and there's plenty of good food out there to suit. 2 slices of toast for breakfast probably doesn't come in to it.

 

[Andy12345]

im kinda in a weird situation, i think i could reduce or stop all meds, but im afraid ill undo whatever they have done, met i think could go due to hb1 36, statins could go my ratio in 2.8 and bp is 106/65 avg so i reckon i could bin them too, but im nervous

 

[Mongoose39uk]

Hana thanks for the answer but telling me I must not have done it right is more than a tad patronising. Once again it is going down the us and them route so I am off.


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[hanadr]

OK Mongoose, but all I did was explain. You drew your own conclusion.
Hana

 

[noblehead]

I think (although Maybird may elaborate further later on) that she's saying her diet has been low(ish)-carb for years yet she is in the pre-diabetes stage.

 

[Mongoose39uk]

If your not doing less than 30g a day is pretty clear Hana.

For the OP that was relevant yes.

Edited to correct the spelling of the name.

 

[))Denise((]

The OP was talking about two slices of toast. What in two slices of toast is low carb? Personally I can't eat wheat so don't eat bread. Even if I could, I would rather use my daily allowance of carbs on some blueberries.

 

[paul-1976]

I always smile when I read posts from people reporting they tried low carbing and it didn't work for them yet they ate porridge,toast and high fructose fruits and wondered why their levels were not so great. :shock:

 

[hanadr]

"f your not doing less than 30g a day is pretty clear Hanna."
I don't understand this please explain
also I always spell my own name correctly, the Czech not the German way.
Hana