Metformin is causing me untold problems Can anyone help?

carophie04

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I've been on Metformin for 3 years now and the last three months the doctor has added Gliclazide. I was having bowel problems with the Metformin and now things are even worse and some days cannot risk going out at all or, if I do, icome back having messed pants and having to change everything from the waist down and jump in the bath. It's a real nightmare andsometimes it happens whilst in bed resulting in having to change sheets etc., the following morning too. Don't know whether to try and drop the Gliclazide, reduce the Metformin (SR) or what to do. Told my GP last week and she has given me two more tablets (not specifically for diabetes) which she said will reduce the amount of water in the bowel and tighten the muscles down there. I just do not want to keep on taking more and more tablets so I think I shall have a go like some of you folk and see what happens.
 

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What's you diet like ? And your sugar readings ?
I came off my metfomin a few months after I started it due to changing my diet
 

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I've been on Metformin for 3 years now and the last three months the doctor has added Gliclazide. I was having bowel problems with the Metformin and now things are even worse and some days cannot risk going out at all or, if I do, icome back having messed pants and having to change everything from the waist down and jump in the bath. It's a real nightmare andsometimes it happens whilst in bed resulting in having to change sheets etc., the following morning too. Don't know whether to try and drop the Gliclazide, reduce the Metformin (SR) or what to do. Told my GP last week and she has given me two more tablets (not specifically for diabetes) which she said will reduce the amount of water in the bowel and tighten the muscles down there. I just do not want to keep on taking more and more tablets so I think I shall have a go like some of you folk and see what happens.
Whatever that underlying problem is, I really hope you get better. No-one deserves that so I wish you well

Mike :)
 
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Hi @carophie04,

Reading through your posts it seems that your Dr. is not overly concerned about some of the problems you have had in relation to your diabetes.

Some people just cannot take Metformin and you may be one of them. I have never used them but some posters do say that if they eat too many carbs then they get worse side effects.

Your diet may be playing a part in what is happening to you so you need to let us know what a typical day's menu is and what your blood sugar readings are and HBA1c results.

Have you read the basic advice that @daisy1 gives to newly diagnosed? This might help you decide the foods you need to cut back on or avoid.

Nobody should be expected to go through what you are experiencing as it is disrupting your quality of life. I bet if your Dr. was having the same problems then they would make sure that they got an answer rather than take tablets for the side effects.

Have any tests been carried out for IBS, Ulcerative Colitis or Crohn's disease?
 
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daisy1

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@carophie04

Hello and welcome to the forum:)

Read the advice from @catherinecherub carefully as it will be very useful to you. In addition, here is the information we give to new members which should also be helpful especially insofar as diet and carbs are concerned. Carry on asking questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

BooJewels

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I'm afraid I guffawed laughing at your OP - not at you, I absolutely assure you, I have nothing but sympathy, but at your doctor's reaction. She might as well have handed you a large cork - for the realism of her approach and effectiveness of actually addressing the problem. There are many different classes of meds to treat diabetes, so you really don't have to live with one that causes that much distress.

I too had similar problems on Metformin - not quite as bad, but close. Once it reached the stage where I was afraid to even go out into the garden - I didn't make it up the stairs one day - I went to the DN and simply refused to take Metformin any more. I had also been earlier prescribed bowel meds to improve it - some days they worked perfectly, other days not at all - and you don't want to wait until you're sitting on a bus to find out which day this one is.

My DN and I struck a deal - she prescribed me gym sessions which I agreed to attend and I stopped the meds. Every minute I spent on that cross trainer sweating myself into lower BGs I sent up a silent prayer that uncomfortable as it was, it was a million times better than being housebound and frightened to walk more than 10 feet from the loo. I wouldn't wish that on anyone and you really shouldn't have to put up with it, there are several alternatives - and Metformin doesn't reduce BG enough in isolation to make it necessary.

As others have said, if you outline your current eating regime, we can give you pointers on how to improve your lot. Give us an idea of your weight, age etc. so we can advise you appropriately.

I promise you, there is a better way and frankly I prescribe your doctor a few days in your shoes to gain a bit of understanding and empathy.
 

Daibell

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Hi and you have my sympathy. Metformin SR for most people works well, but if it doesn't in my opinion it should be stopped. It only has a small effect on blood sugar and if it causes problems what's the point of it. Gliclazide rarely causes problems but again it may need to be stopped. Met is most useful if you are overweight and Glic if your pancreas is failing and you are possibly slim. They do different jobs. If you have excess weight then your highest priority is to reduce that thru a lower carb diet. If you are slim already then insulin may be worth considering as it does the job if tablets aren't for you. It normally has no side effects. Let us know your BMI.