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More Essiac Tea Vicar?

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments' started by timo2, May 25, 2008.

  1. timo2

    timo2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,
    Has anybody tried Essiac tea?. It's supposed to stop diabetes in it's tracks.
    I know that the claims are probably horse s**t, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

    cheers,
    timo.
     
  2. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    I can't see that it would stop diabetes in it's tracks otherwise we'd all be on it but it has been around for a while as a naturopathic medicine used in cancer treatments.
     
  3. ChocFish

    ChocFish · Well-Known Member

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    Side effects of this tea are that it lowers blood glucose, there are also other side effects such as diarrhoea, nausea, etc and people with kidney or liver problems must not touch it, I think we should stick to cinnamon and fenugreek...?
     
  4. timo2

    timo2 · Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the replies,
    Essiac seems to be primarily touted as a "cure" for cancer, but there is (supposedly) a case of a woman who's insulin dependant diabetes was cured as a side effect of using essiac for cancer.
    http://www.1sthealthsource.com/articles/essiac/essiac-tea.html
    I assume that it was a type 2 insulin dependant that was "cured".

    regards,
    timo.
     
  5. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Chocfish just wandering through the threads ( must get a life !!) noticed you mentioned Fenugreek. I have heard of the Plant but didnt know it had any effect on diabetes .

    Dave P
     
  6. ChocFish

    ChocFish · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dave

    Fenugreek and cinnamon have been used to treat diabetes by alternative practitioners for a long time, mainly on the continent, normallt as supplement to orthodox medicines; I have taken cinnamon for around 8 years as it helped me with insulin resistance.

    Anyway check some links on fenugreek.
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie ... arch&meta=

    All the best

    Karen
     
  7. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Karen thanks for the link, i have also been dabbling with Cinnamon and do find it helps. The reckomended doseage appears to be 1 tsp per day how do you determine on what and when ?

    Dave P
     
  8. ChocFish

    ChocFish · Well-Known Member

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    Hi again Dave

    I am not so strict when it comes to measuring the cinnamon, I just take it twice a day, every day, roughly half a teaspoon morning and evening, sometimes probably a bit more though, for example I had some stewed apples today (I love it cold from the fridge, ever so refreshing) and i put in cinnamon, bit of lemon, etc, I put it into my green tea, on cereal, etc

    I havent taken fenugreek though, my bg is steady, so much so that my GP, who sent me last year for another glucose tolerance test that came out as 9.7, is no longer sending me for the Hb1ac test, I still have it done though. I think, but cant be sure of course that its either the oils or the cinnamon or my diet that is keeping me steady and helped insulin resistance, or maybe a combination of all of them as well as the other things that I do for myself, still uneasy about it all even after all this time, bubbles do burst eventually dont they, I darent get too cocky.

    All the best Dave

    Karen
     
  9. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Karen like you i am treading this path carefully but it seems to be working so am keeping going ( what else to do ??) The bursting bubble is a concern because i really couldnt face some Health expert grilling with " i told you so " or " you wouldnt listen". You pays your money i suppose.

    Dave P
     
  10. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    I take about half a teaspoon on my weetabix in the morning then a cinnamon tablet with my lunch and dinner(or dinner and tea if you're like me!)Fenugreek is often used in curries and I'm sure there way a study done about Indian cooking and diabetes.
     
  11. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Thnx Sue, the bit that got me a bit shaky was when i found the cinnamon side effects blog. Which do you find more effective the Powder or the Caps and in what strength do you prefer ?
    Dave P
     
  12. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    Well I take about half a teaspoon of powdered cinnamon in the morning and the tabs are 500mg each.My BS seems relatively stable during the day so they both appear to be effective with me anyway.
     
  13. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Well sue as you know im on Byetta and been talking to dennis cos the weight was kind of in limbo for 2/3 wks but today Wham 4.5lbs to the Good and BS is on the Mark. This is the bit that has me twitching over the Cinnamon. The bit about wieght reduction and its effect on resistance if its right is a definite posibility now and hence i may be able at a time not too distant dump a lot of the Meds and do it another way.

    PS one should always have ambition ??????????? :D
     
  14. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    'They' reckon that if you lose 10% of your body weight(that is if you are overweight!) It has a great effect on insulin resistance.I think I did lose 10% and it did indeed make a great difference not only to my BS but my blood pressure as well.
     
  15. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Sue definitely got some to spare, reckon if i can get down to anywhere under 17 that will be sustainable. At 6`4 and generally big boned anything less would almost be anorexic :D
     
  16. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    God,if I was 17 stone you'd have to roll me everywhere!! :lol: :lol: but then I'm only 5 foot 4inch.
     
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    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    At my recent review on Byetta which is a group thing - i did admit to feeling a bit of a fraud. A good part of the group M/F was what you would call Obese/ V Obese !! with declared BS figuers to match. Short sharp shock if you like but the success ive had and seeing where it could go has made me more determined than ever to get it dealt with.




    5`4" ------- I was that high when i was 9 --------------54now :D
     
  18. sixfoot

    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    By the way ..................... what is essiac T ? :oops:
     
  19. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    Try a Google search,all will be revealed!! :lol:
     
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    sixfoot · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Sue, but lost interest now :)
     
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