My journey with my new pal Type 2

sugartoohigh

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So to keep myself in the loop and glean info from the good folk on the site. I thought I'd record my current journey with Type 2.

My journey so far.

Told in October 2013 that I've Type 2,tested,retested and shock up and down to see if I break.

The latest annual (though its only been three and a bit months) check up today. New blood sample taken to see where my blood sugars are (I wasn't asked to fast in advance like last time though?) , weight checked (lost 1 1/2 stone in old money, about 6 more stones to go until the GP's target. I swear he makes it up ;) ) , height (why had I got shorter in three months?),blood pressure down a little bit and cholesterol down a bit. All depends on the sugar reading which I should have in about 6-10 days. Then I'll find out whether or not I have to go on meds.

My annual eye test on the 24th and sometime this month ( and pigs may fly) a visit to the district hospital for half a day with the consultants for 'a introduction to diabetes' , uuummm.............

STH
 
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Welcome to the forum STH and good to see you're making progress. Daisy will hopefully be along soon to give you some great advice.
 
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Welcome to the forum STH and good to see you're making progress. Daisy will hopefully be along soon to give you some great advice.

Hi sugartoohigh and welcome to the forum:)

Here is the information that mo1905 mentioned which I hope you will find useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Jamrox

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Hi Sugartohigh the advice on here is fantastic. One thing that I found invaluable was checking my blood sugars so that I could recognise what my symptoms meant and how different foods effected me.
I had to buy one but it is certainly worth the money , it helps keep me on the straight and narrow.

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sugartoohigh

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Thanks for the advice ladies and gents but I'm not new to the forum, I was on before the recent update ;)Its just taken an age to get anywhere with the GP......but that is changing (I hope) after I've requested a new GP.

Jamrox, I've got a reader but my local treatment team only work off their own blood test results and don't like me having a reader of my own. I was reminded again today that it wouldn't help my treatment..........well that's a matter of opinion ;)
 
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I am seeing my diabetes nurse on Thursday to see how I am progressing. I am going to ask her opinion on me obtaining a blood sugar monitor.
 

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Sugartoohigh , my nurse told me not too.
I am a nurse and thought my symptoms were low blood sugars , sweaty , irritable , lack of concentration , feeling awful so I had something to eat . Wrong ....when I tested I was actually high , that was when I bought a monitor and tested how I reacted to foods . Honest I stick by what I say , its the best investment I have made and im glad I ignored my practice nurse who told me not to test , infact she told me she was too busy to test mewhen I asked too.

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So to keep myself in the loop and glean info from the good folk on the site. I thought I'd record my current journey with Type 2.

My journey so far.

Told in October 2013 that I've Type 2,tested,retested and shock up and down to see if I break.

The latest annual (though its only been three and a bit months) check up today. New blood sample taken to see where my blood sugars are (I wasn't asked to fast in advance like last time though?) , weight checked (lost 1 1/2 stone in old money, about 6 more stones to go until the GP's target. I swear he makes it up ;) ) , height (why had I got shorter in three months?),blood pressure down a little bit and cholesterol down a bit. All depends on the sugar reading which I should have in about 6-10 days. Then I'll find out whether or not I have to go on meds.

My annual eye test on the 24th and sometime this month ( and pigs may fly) a visit to the district hospital for half a day with the consultants for 'a introduction to diabetes' , uuummm.............

STH
The test that you had for your blood sugars is likely to have been the HbA1c test which looks at your glucose levels over a couple of months or so. It is not done fasting. The fasting blood sugar test which can be requested is looking at your blood sugars at the time the blood is taken.

Hope this helps

Doug
 

sugartoohigh

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Thanks Doug, that would explain it.
 

sugartoohigh

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Spooky or what ,but the district hospital called today and I'm booked in for the 31st Jan from 09.30-15.30 for 7 hours of 'education'.So eye test a week before then, so a very busy month. Late seeing I was told in October I was Type 2 (God knows how long I'd had it, and not felt the worse for it), but at least its all happening now. I'll see what joy I have with the experts.

STH
 

sugartoohigh

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Ha! Ha! I know it was too good to be true. My education day at the hospital has been cancelled due to over demand for places. So I have to wait till March now or the letter says I can cancel the whole thing myself and I won't be offered the day again, ever! Not been to the doctor in 20 years then when I need the help of the NHS I find they are falling apart..............................shazbott!

Oh well, thank goodness for the information on this website :)
 

sugartoohigh

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I have Jamrox. If I don't attend on the date given I miss out altogether no ifs or buts,they were very clear about it. They weren't as clear as to why this is the policy? It must be very difficult for them to have patients getting in the way of their busy social lives :( I'll just have to put up with it as its a one off event which I feel I need(or should have or should of had from the start) and then as long as I can keep my type2 under control I shouldn't need to see the staff at the hospital again.
 

sugartoohigh

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So eye test today and no where near as bad as I thought. The drops only stang for a few seconds ,blinded briefly by the machine taking photo's, the blur has just about gone just over two hours.

I got my latest results from my annual check up on the 13th Jan as well. My HbA1c was 59 mmol/mol which in old money is about 7.5 I think ?

Which is down on my second test back in Oct 2013 11.8 mmol/L.Mainly down to low carbing, so it must work.
 
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sugartoohigh

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My retinopathy eye test results came back today as "satisfactory" . No more details than that and I'm booked in for another test in 12 months. So not a bad day.
 

sugartoohigh

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So spent 6 hours in the district hospital today for my education day. Two charming nurses but they pretty much repeated the NICE advice out there already, and dismissed any new ideas or evidence. I left me a little down ,it didn't help with their end of day test which reminded everyone there that there is no 'cure' for diabetes for the last question.

Well done you drove that home :( May of been better ending on a positive? Two of the other men on the course walked down the stairs with me saying they weren't going to change their life style. Luckily I found this site first. Well Doctors next Friday and then we will see what longer term plans she has for me.
 
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It is really sad to see the amount of money that is spent in running these courses when you consider the poor advice that they give out to newly diagnosed diabetics. It is also clear from what you, and others, say that it also doesn't encourage some of the attendees to change their lifestyles leading ultimately to increasing medications and complications that will cost the NHS even more money.

Better advice at the start could save our cash strapped NHS so much more money and improve the outcomes for the patients as well.




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