New kid on the block - needs a little help.

Graham76

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I had been diagnosed with type-2 diabetes now for just over a year, and while I never really took much notice at first, over the last few months I have started to take notice. I take Metformin 3 times a day (as well as a new pill I cannot remember the name of right now that I take once a day), and my last blood test – non fasting – returned a score that had gone from 10.1 to 10.6. The doc gave me a tester because she said my levels had risen too much since my last visit, however, having checked my levels over the last few days it’s always reading 15+ and never as low as 10. Now being as I had my bloods done in the last two weeks, does this sound plausible? I only ask because of the huge difference in such a small space of time.

Also, I don’t have sugar in my drinks any more and testing myself before any kind of food in a morning I get a reading of 17. The problem is I have no idea how to manage a high number (I always seem to be high even on no food). I’m slightly confused.

Does this make any sense?
 

borofergie

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It's not about the sugar, it's all about the carbs (as you are about to find out)...

Well done on taking the first step. It'll get a lot better from here on in...
 
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Hi Graham,

yep those numbers are way too high. Daisy1 will be along in a minute with loads of info, but in the meantime welcome and rest assured, we've all been there and it's perfectly possible to get those numbers down.
 

tree-peony

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welcome to the club Graham!!!

It will start to make sense soon... although my levels are not dissimilar to yours tbh, but I've only been working on it for a short while :)
 

Defren

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Welcome to the forum Graham, yes, your figures are too high, but believe me, when we are finished with you, you will have non diabetic numbers. :lol:
 

Graham76

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Wow, thanks guys for the help. I feel a little better now I have found a portal to come and hunt through.

I have to say I was a little dubious about searching for answer online, but having read through a lot of the post so far throughout the forum, I seem to be in good hands. If only the doctors had this much time for you when you needed it. Lol.
 

xyzzy

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Hello Graham and welcome to the forum.

Here's some info that worked for me and got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so. Not a cure as I still have to be VERY careful what I eat. I am really happy that I have minimised the risk of all those nasty complications. In the 4 months since being diagnosed I have now lost 3 stone in weight as well. I went to see my nurse this week and she is very pleased how I am progressing and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since its working really well.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left swap try brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar. You may find it conflicts with advice given to you in this country as we have yet to update and still use older dietary recommendations. In fact we use diet guidelines that are over 30 years old. If you want to read more about these latest methods there is a thread discussing it with some useful links here http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28402.

I see you are measuring your levels which is great. You have a good nurse if you are getting strips as not many will prescribe T2's a meter and strips any more which is a real shame as most forum members think testing is really important. The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So testing is brilliant at telling you if what you are eating is keeping you safe. The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.
 

daisy1

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Hi Graham and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information that we give to new members and I think that following this will help you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will find an answer for you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

emmatree

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Hello Graham

Welcome, you have come to the right place here! I am 7 weeks in to a low carb eating regime inspired by what I read and learnt on here and it has done me, my blood sugar levels and my weight a world of good.

Good luck!
 

didie

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Hi Graham

Welcome to the forum :D