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Newly Diagnosed type 2

turvell

Well-Known Member
Messages
522
Location
Birmingham UK
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
been type 2 and the fact i get no sodding help from the NHS at all
hi

i was diagnosed 4 weeks ago with type 2 blood sugar 6.9. my doctor told me i was not diabetic but i was to see a nurse. so i did and she told me i was diabetic. so i was confused. they gave me a living with diabetes booklet and sent me off. i have no idea what im supposed to do now. i read on the internet about diet and exercise control and am truing to do this. but how do i know if im controling it or not? sorry to be vague but i really have no idea what im doing. how do i know i am controling it when i didnt even know i had it. im very scared at the moment
 
Hi Turvell and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members to give you a better idea what to do so I hope you find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
hi

thanks for that. im still very confused tho. can you actually reduce your blood sugar level down to a safe level?
 
you reduce your blood sugars levels by what you eat and drink, making sure they are low in carbs .
 
hi christine

thanks for taking time to reply to me. im starting to get the picture a bit now. so im looking to fill my plate with veg a little bit of lean meat and no to very little amounts of potatoe pasta rice etc. so is it possible to return my blood sugar to normal again do you think?
 
Just to amplify 2christine's answer - all carbohydrate turns into glucose after we eat it, so controlling blood glucose by diet involves controlling the amount of carbohydrate we eat.

Some people do this by using a low-carb diet, eg Atkins. This is my diet of choice 'cos it suits me and I need to lose weight. There are other low-carb diets.

Other people limit their daily allowance of carbs, eg to 150g or less, daily. You can do this by getting a Carbohydrate Counter book (eg from Amazon), and working out what are the best foods for you to eat. Get into the habit of reading labels on food packets.

The main weapon in our arsenal is the blood glucose monitor/meter. I am very lucky to get one from my GP, and all my strips on prescription. I tested frequently while I was learning what I could eat, but I need to test much less now. About once a month I do a week's full testing just to make sure - and I shall test frequently over the holidays, as I fully intend to treat myself with delicious food!

Mince pies are out for me - they put me into double figures. But there are lots of other things to eat. :wink:

As a general rule I can keep my blood glucose levels at non-diabetic levels (3.5 - 5.5 before meals; less than 8, 2 hours later) but I do have to be strict. If I get over-confident I let the extra carbs creep in, and the old BGs start to creep up.

Read around on this site and don't be afraid to ask questions - there's no such thing as a silly question on here. You'll get lots of support from people who know what they're doing from experience. That doesn't mean we don't disagree - we do, frequently! - but you're among friends. Learn as much as you can about diabetes and tackle it from a position of strength.

Viv 8)
 
Hey Viv


thank you so much for your kind attitude towards me and taking the time to tell me all this. since being diagnosed ive been pretty emotional and feel like crying all the time. i feel like i have been left to die by my doctor. you and 2christine have given more help than anyone so far. cant tell you how much i appreciate that. i have bought an accu check metre. and **** the strips are pricey but i see now that im to use it to test what happens when i eat. so i will test before i eat and 2 hours after and then i presume i can then devise a list of meals that suit me. im supposed to be under 8.2 ? 2 hours after eating? if that is the case then i can assume what i ate was a good option?

steve
 
hi Steve, I am so sorry you have been upset by your diagnosis, in time you will find that its just a blip on your screen, and you may understand that we are all susceptible to things going wrong with our bodies as we get older and we cannot deal with some of the stuff that is put into our food.
The good news is that you have been given a wake up call in time and there is no need for you to suffer some of the complications of diabetes that others suffer from until its too late, ie sore painful feet, sore dry eyes, heart problems, sleep apnea,(snoring) ,these are just some the problems that people get and don't know it could be high blood sugar causing it.
You are right in thinking that what you eat from now on ,and testing will tell you whether you are on the right track.it wont stop you from having the occasional treat, you need it sometimes. I hope things will get better for you, best wishes :wave:
 
thanks 2christine thanks for being so helpful. you really have picked my day up and made me feel more positive and less like throwing myslef off a cliff lol. so thanks guy thanks so much x
 
Hi there, sorry to hear your news it is an awful shock, as a type 2 I had very high levels, one year ago, now my hba1c is 6.5
I have my test very 12 weeks.no other testing....
I do have some carbs because they stop my levels from dropping low carb is not for everyone, I have reduced my carbs increased my exercise and cook sugar free, i do low fat as well, all personal choice, so many things to consider it will be about what works for you.....
It is so early you will just feel shocked, not sure if you ever really feel "normal' agin but you do learn to cope...
Hope you begin to feel more in control of your situation soon, you can take control.....
I have had a few good chats with my gp, -and found a dietiten who is great we have one to one sessions about keeping levels low, not by low carbs though, as said I reduced them, but before I didn't over eat on the carbs...
I take metformin, I am a veggie and needed some help...
Get all the help you can every bit helps....
Tc best wishes Kat
 
Hi Kat

well then you have done very well to drop your levels down so low i have just set up a spread sheet where i will record my levels before i eat and after i eat so i can see what is what. today i have a chicken sandwich one brown bread. home made not pre packed. and my levels before i ate it was 5.3mmol and 2 hours after was 7.1mmol. which i believe is ok. i think. info seems to vary from site to another

steve
 
hi steve thank you too, you cheered me up with your reply, I was having a bad day myself. i have been using Cambridge diet shakesx3 and 1 low carb meal a day since oct 31st and I have lost 2st and got my bg levels low and now off all medication, today I got weighed and had not lost any weight, i was really down in the dumps. I could not see where I had gone wrong ,i thought I was doing everything right. when I had a look at the readings later, it said I had increased my muscular strength and reduced fat, just goes to show that when you look at things in a different light they can look better lol.x
 
2christine that is so true. my nurse that i see only advice so far is. your fat stop eating so much, well firstly im a lot thinner than she is and 2 i am on a diet but its only been 3 weeks what does she expect me to have lost lol. you can loose size without loosing weight and your muscles weigh more. which is good. i put on loads of weight after kicking the fags. ive been off them for 2 years now but probably gave my self type 2 instead . but however i look at it its here now so i just need to deal. i just started testing myself today. with and accu check metre. i have set up a spreadsheet and im recording my stats.

for lunch today i had a chicken sandwhich. home made not shop bought. and before i ate my mmol was 5.3 and i tested again after 2 hours and it was 7.1 which i believe is good. so i guess i know now that this is ok. and if anything i guess i know that a chicken sandwich is a safe food to eat. well this is what i think anyway.

glad i cheered you up. these days i seem to be surrounded by misserable gits which dont help.

life is short lets all smile and bee good to each other

steve
 
gracias Kat

hey just a thought has any you ladies ever been on the DESMOND course. i was told i would be called up to attend an education course but i never have been. any of you been on this or something like this ?
 
Hi Steve
Yes I went on a course, it was ok, it taught be the basic things to get going, looking for a third of sugars in carbs, and look for less than 10g in milk yogurt in every 100g..
I then read lots myself....it is not always easy though, and I just hope I can keep levels low, the course did get me started, then I had eye and feet checked, due yearly review anytime......ask about a course, I had a bit of a swinging time and took lots of questions with me ....Kat
 
Lol no not swinging lol

I had a bit of time waiting to get a place on the course it was a half day session, which is why I meet a dietiten every few months to keep me motivated, I got referred via gp....had to make my case.....
 
i was going to say what kind of meeting is this lol swinging

my doctor is a fool and out of date he told me i didnt have type 2. i want to see a dietician really badly but im not been offered that. i guess i will have to push for it. or try and find a private one maybe
 
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