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Newly Diagnosed type 2

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by Grungysquash, Feb 14, 2016.

  1. Grungysquash

    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well bit of a wake up call 47yo male was in the USA on holiday had a blood nose incident - doctor checked my blood pressure which was high told me to get it checked when I returned.

    Went to doctor - result fasting test of 17.3. Only got the results about 1 week ago. While I was there he gave me a random test - was 24.6. In my defense I did have a big bowl of cocopops for breakfast.

    Run forward 1 week - have brought a tester - and changed my diet. Right now its 9.3 - averaging about 11 - really trying to bring this down. Have started running again.

    How quickly can u get the sugar levels to get below 10. This is my first target - then 5.
     
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  2. YankeeBeatlesBabe1964

    YankeeBeatlesBabe1964 Type 2 · Newbie

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    Lay off the cocopops? Lol. Happy Valentine's Day and good luck!
     
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  3. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum. I'm guessing you haven't had a chance to look around much yet.
    @daisy1 will provide some info for you.

    Meanwhile, I'd suggest you check out this web site. It has just about everything you need to know about type 2 diabetes:

    http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/ especially http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

    Also, check out:

    http://www.dietdoctor.com/ and http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

    In answer to your question, it could take days, weeks, months or it may never happen. That's the reality.

    However, there's a very good chance that you will reverse your type 2.

    Joining this forum is probably the best thing you can do.

    Ask lots of questions and good luck!
     
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  4. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @Grungysquash

    Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

    LOW CARB PROGRAM:
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
     
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  5. Prem51

    Prem51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Hi @Grungysquash and welcome to the forum. If you have a read around the forums you will see that a lot of people on here have reduced their Blood Sugar levels by a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating. It will take time, but you should be able to reduce your BS levels before your 3 month HbA1c retest.
     
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  6. Jamrox

    Jamrox Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Grungysquash welcome to the best resource for diabetes you will find .
    The information provided by daisy1 is spot on.
     
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    Jamrox Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't do high fat , made me feel sick but lower carb , higher fat and 30minutes activity ( walking , cycling , swimming, gardening , washing windows , anything that gets me moving ) have kept me mainly in control for nearly 3 years. You'll see I'm having s bit of a blip but getting there again thanks to this forum.
     
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  8. Grungysquash

    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well in a week highest I've hit is 13.4 - but every day its getting a tad lower - just had a reading of 8.2 which is my lowest yet about 2 hours after breakfast - eggs and bacon.
     
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    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Trying to monitor my results before and after food to see what the meal is doing to my sugar levels. Can't run at the moment - overseas in Germany for work so will settle for a walk once it stops raining.
     
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    Clivethedrive Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Easy does it lowering your bs's ,give your body time to adjust nice an stead to the new regime,all the best and "welcome to the forum" , clive
     
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  11. Liam1955

    Liam1955 Type 2 · Master

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    @Grungysquash - Hello and Welcome to the Forum.:) That's great that you are testing before and after food to see what effect food has on your blood sugar. You haven't said if you are just diet controlled? Or are you on medication as well?
     
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  12. Grungysquash

    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm taking metex XR 500mg which the doctor prescribed after I was told - two tablets per day.
     
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  13. Grungysquash

    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Ok so after 3 weeks I'm getting the sugar levels down I'm now around the 6.7 - 8.5 mark. Still to high but making progress.
     
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    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Discovered pizza is NBG for me :(

    Not happy - not surprised either but had to give it a go. Tried a thin base thinking this would have less carbs - bs went from 6.7 before to 10.8 after 2 hours.

    Oh well another to cross out.
     
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  15. Jamrox

    Jamrox Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    For me the trick is to have a little bit and lots of salad , I don't feel I'm missing out then .
     
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    TooManyCrisps Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Grungysquash, that's really good progress. I'm fairly newly diagnosed (8 weeks ago) and switched to a LCHF diet. I am finding most of my readings are 7s and 8s, with a few 9s and 10s thrown in for good measure. My HBA1C on diagnosis was 97, so I know it will take some time but I would be pleased if all my readings were under 8.5. I am very keen to avoid meds if possible, so am just doing diet and exercise. Any real carbs at all just send my levels shooting up.
     
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    Sirmione Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The watch word with any type of bread is take great care. Reactions to various breads seem to vary very much between diabetics, pizza sends my blood glucose high for an extended period but strangely I can eat some types of focaccia which in theory is made from the same scone style dough with little impact on my blood glucose level. Only self-testing will tell you what foods and combinations of food work for you.
     
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    Redsnapper Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well done so far, this is the way to go.It took me about 3 months to get BG down near normal.You will have glycogen stores in your liver and muscles, takes a while to use em up, my theory anyway.
    Regarding Pizza look up Fatface Keto Pizza recipe.Makes a reasonable substitute, plus cos you made it you can put your fave toppings on it.I would put up a link but I'm not very tech.Should be plenty of stuff on here as it was well talked about recently.
    Cheers.
     
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  19. Grungysquash

    Grungysquash Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well I just had a diet fail - movies and icecream - curse u chock top. Went from 6.5 - 11.2.

    Still it was deadpool with my daughter so I'll need to go for an extra run to fix this.
     
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    amgrundy Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi I make my own pizza with a cauliflower base . :)
     
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