Not sure wat am doin or anythin at moment!!

candy1567

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Hi all,

Just signed up to the site not sure if i need this at the moment

Have just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes but GP is concerned with level of creatine which is 3.9

I asked him to explain but he just kept on about i hav to take these tablets to keep diabetes under control until he refers me to specialist at hospital, but said i will need to take insulin.

He then drew me graphs on a piece of paper to show me my results and talked bout me going into renal failure and dying.

This has completely threw me and am shocked to the extent i just cant function at the moment.

I hav searched the internet and cannot find any constructive articles on a 3.9 creatine reading so i still dont know wat is a normal reading and wat is the bad reading if you know wat i mean.

He just said he was rushing through a hospital appointment

I am totally bewildered and dont know if am coming or going, he was saying u must feel ill, u must feel like this and that but i dont

Sorry for going on

Many thanks in anticipation of any replies

candy1567
 

VBee

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Blimey! Don't know alot about this, but I found this link:
http://www.medicinenet.com/creatinine_b ... rticle.htm
Your doctor should have made sure you understood what was happening to you. :?

Normal levels of creatinine in the blood are approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams (mg) per deciliter (dl) in adult males and 0.5 to 1.1 milligrams per deciliter in adult females. (In the metric system, a milligram is a unit of weight equal to one-thousandth of a gram, and a deciliter is a unit of volume equal to one-tenth of a liter.)

Muscular young or middle-aged adults may have more creatinine in their blood than the norm for the general population. Elderly persons, on the other hand, may have less creatinine in their blood than the norm. Infants have normal levels of about 0.2 or more, depending on their muscle development. A person with only one kidney may have a normal level of about 1.8 or 1.9. Creatinine levels that reach 2.0 or more in babies and 10.0 or more in adults may indicate the need for a dialysis machine to remove wastes from the blood.

Certain drugs can sometimes cause abnormally elevated creatinine levels
 

hanadr

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Looks like you will be scared to death before your kidneys have time to do you any harm at all. That doctor was being insensitive. Is there a chance you can get an appointment with a diabetes Specialist nurse at the health centre to talk it all through.? In the meantime the best you can do to help yourself is to get your blood glucose level down. Although you can do this with medication, you might prefer to do it mainly by diet. That would make it unnecessary to take any more medicines. It's worth a try anyway. What antidiabetic medicine have they prescribed for you? and have they given you a blood sugar meter? If not, Ask for one. NICE says you should test your own BG whilst learning what to eat.
Eliminate all sugar from your diet,( from wherever it's hiding.) and reduce your starchy carbs, potatoes, pasta, grains, including rice, and baked goods. You can eat meat, fish, eggs, etc and green leafy veggies to your heart's content. Forget anything you've been told about a diet based on complex carbs. It won't get your BGs down. This is the time for the Atkins diet book. If your kidneys are bad, keep the salt low. You CAN improve kidney trouble with good BG control. It might also help to try Benfotiamine. A lot of people believe it helps.
As Corporal Jones used to say "Don't Panic!"
If they've given you Gliclazide, you need to test BG, it can cause hypos. and if you eat a lot of carbs whilst on it, you will put on weight and that won't help blood pressure, which is bad for kidneys. It will take a while to work this out. but it can be done. Tell that doctor how much he scared you.
 

phoenix

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'Normal levels of creatinine in the blood are approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams (mg) per deciliter (dl) etc'
These are in mg/dl, more usually micro moles per litre are the units used in the UK, . There is a simple explanation of creatine here http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medical-Info/ckd-info/creatinine.html
It doesn't seem as if your doctor was able to explain things very well .I don't know if you are able to phone him or perhaps a practice nurse to get the figures straight so you know exactly what you're looking up . There are so many test variations (creatinine, creatine clearance, albumi/creatinine that you may only worry yourself further.
Please do as he says and take the tablets. If it should be necessary to take insulin, well I have experience of that and it really isn't nearly as scary as I imagined.

One important thing is that your doctor is being proactive on your behalf. That can only be a good thing.
 

jopar

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Creatin is a measurement that gives a indication on how well the kidneys are doing there job! With improved control you can turn this around to a high degree...

A good way is working wih the carbs of within your diet, you need to cut out refined sugar, as to how and what carbs to cut out of your diet is a difficult one... As some carbs do have a slightly different effect on individuals blood glucose, some say completely cut out all, others say well monitor and see what causes a problem and the decide whether a reduction in portion size or cutting it out completely is a better solution...

The bit you will need to remember is if this is a sign that your kidneys have sustained damaged you will need to be carefull with protiens as these can casue problems in large amounts if the kidneys are damaged...
 

candy1567

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Hi everyone

Many thanks for ALL your replys, they are very much appreciated and hav taken them all onboard.

In response to handar my gp has prescribed rosiglitazone (4mg) with metformin (1000mg) combined and hav to take this 3 times a day. He didn't mention bout testing my blood with a meter or anythin like that, but said that this medication was just a starting point as he needed to get me on somthing asap.

He has also given me slow release metformin and i hav to take that twice a day morning and evening ( gonna rattle soon lol)

I also took all your advice and rang the gp up and am goin to see the practise nurse tomorrow mainly for some reassurance and to put it in perspective and for her to tell me the do's and don'ts.

Now i need to find the courage to tell my partner oh dear if its not one thing its the other how i usually cope is to deal with things on my own in my own way, god sorry i sound like an old mother hen lol well i am female and moaning is part of my genes lol got to laugh or i'll cry

Once again thanks it was fantastic reading all the replies
 

fergus

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Just for reference :

The typical creatinine reference ranges are 0.5 to 1.0 mg/dL (about 45-90 μmol/L) for women and 0.7 to 1.2 mg/dL (60-110 μmol/L) for men.

Good luck,

fergus