Nutrition and supplements

Mr_Pot

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I Googled to find out the food sources of zinc, and it seemed to me that given I'm not eating oysters daily (or indeed at all) it might be a good idea to supplement. I read that our supply of zinc needs to be renewed every day, so we can't even binge eat it to stock up for a while. My current solution is zinc + magnesium supplements, but I'm not particularly happy with that.
Oysters are the best source but red meat and poultry are also good sources and you are more likely to eat them regularly, unless you are vegetarian of course.
This is a good guide....
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-Consumer/
 

Dr Snoddy

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If you are vegetarian and vegan especially I don't think it is possible to live healthily without supplements unless you are very careful.
@NicoleC1971 could you please explain why you think vegetarians would need supplements in order to live healthily?
 

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The lowest carb chocolate I have been able to find is Montezuma Absolute Black 100%, available with orange / peppermint oil (my favourites) and other flavours. Only 8gc per 100g, which puts it level with almonds! It is horribly expensive, but is often offered at a discount on Amazon or elsewhere. I used to be addicted to Hotel Chocolat 100% drops, but they disappeared during the pandemic and now I prefer Montezuma, which are also lower carb.

https://welleasy.co.uk/products/mon...b0LU7yg3UOesXU_mOSZ22FjNYnp4pCjxoCXmQQAvD_BwE ooh
 
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JohnEGreen

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If you are vegetarian and vegan especially I don't think it is possible to live healthily without supplements unless you are very careful.
@NicoleC1971 could you please explain why you think vegetarians would need supplements in order to live healthily?
If I may interject without B12 supplements a vegetable only diet would not contain anything more than trace amounts of B12 without B12 the immune system would become impaired just one effect of B12 deficiency..
 

Dr Snoddy

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If I may interject without B12 supplements a vegetable only diet would not contain anything more than trace amounts of B12 without B12 the immune system would become impaired just one effect of B12 deficiency..
However, vegetarians who eat a wide variety of foods including either/or eggs, dairy products etc should not necessarily need any form of supplementation at all. Unless a deficiency has been clearly identified most supplementation is a waste of money and resources.
I fully appreciate that those on a strict vegan diet may need to supplement with B12 as may those who find that Metformin reduces their B12 levels. The attached link may be of interest.https://www.theguardian.com/.../vitamin-supplements-waste-…
 

Hopeful34

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I had zinc, magnesium, iron tests + the usual full blood count etc, recently and half expected my zinc or magnesium levels could be low, but all were within normal range, so was pleasantly surprised.. Eat a range of foods including meat and veg and fruit, and the only supplements I take are vitamin D3 with added calcium as vitamin d levels kept going low.
 

Cumbrianjudith

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Thiamine B1 too.
Thiamine administration can prevent the formation of harmful by-products of glucose metabolism, reduce oxidative stress and improve endothelial function. The potential benefit of long-term replacement in those with diabetes is not yet known but may reduce cardiovascular risk and angiopathic complications.
Yes it’s a lng time ago since you posted this Lisa… but I was going to ask , on a new post nearly 3 years later, if anyone had taken B1/thiamine/ benfotiamine by itself? I am over 4 years into very disabilitating Long Covid and came across research into high dose of B1 etc to limit the impact of postural hypotension, only been taking it 4 days and seem to producing weird ‘symptoms including first time in 4 + years when 3 BP readings in a row were normal readings! Plus I think my BG is different, 2 days in a row I haven’t needed much insulin. I know a few days of such results doesn’t mean it’s a permanent effect, but I was interested to find out more. B1 research for anything save Beri-beri etc seems very limited, as one researcher pointed out as Big Pharma can’t make money from it. Just curious to know if you Lisa, or anyone else, found any interesting results from taking B1, or alternatives?