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Occasionally over 20 carbs ...

Discussion in 'Ketogenic diet forum' started by BrianDoc, Oct 13, 2021.

  1. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Hmm not sure I'd class that as intermittent fasting.. more like late breakfast..
    Personally I'd remove the first or last meal completely and eat more during the other two to get a shorter eating window (or a longer fasting one..)
     
  2. BrianDoc

    BrianDoc · Well-Known Member

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    I thought 16 hours between meals would be long enough to be honest, I am happy enough with that gap, missing breakfast and having 20 hours between meals wouldn’t be something I would want to do long term.
     
  3. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    OK but it might help with weight loss which you were saying you hadn't seen much of.
     
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  4. BrianDoc

    BrianDoc · Well-Known Member

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    Appreciate you are trying to help, and what you are advising may well work, it just wouldn’t be for me, if I’ve to die a fat man so be it lol.
     
  5. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I would ensure the basics are optimised. I put sleep on the same level as food now. Are you getting a qualitative 7 hours plus a night continuously. Sleep is when it all comes together - cellular repair and main fat loss. Are you walking after the meals - this ensures that spikes are lower and less insulin is required (back to fat burning quicker). Meal frequency - can you do 2 meals a day. As @bulkbiker posted, I would agree that 2 meals maybe more efficient for you, and this appears to be the sweet spot ultimately for long term low carbers. If you optimse those areas and still do not see progress, I would switch out cheese for more protein, chicken / white fish alongside your normal protein amount.
     
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  6. BrianDoc

    BrianDoc · Well-Known Member

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    Sleep isn’t great, I ended up in intensive care with Covid about this time last year, it left my lungs badly scarred and I now cough up a lot of mucus, including during the night, I recently had an X-ray which showed infections in various parts of both lungs and water on the lungs, I am waiting on a follow up ct scan, but am stuck with the coughing and disturbed sleep for the moment.

    My wife says I lost a few stones when I was in hospital, I hadn’t weighed myself before I was ill so I don’t know.

    As far as walking goes, I am going for a mile walk about six times a day, every two hours, including after meals. Because of my lungs it is only over the last 6 weeks that I have started walking, building the walks up from 1/2 a mile each to a mile each.

    Many thanks for your advice and that from bulkbiker, I’ll stick at it for a few weeks and hopefully I will start losing weight a bit quicker, I am losing weight, just feel for the effort I am putting in given the weight I am I should be doing more than a pound a week. I might just have to learn to be patient !
     
  7. MrsA2

    MrsA2 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Don't despair @BrianDoc , it does sound like you are eating the right sort of things .
    Like the others I'd think the next step is to skip the odd meal. If it's feeling like that isn't possible because you'd be too hungry, that tells me you may not be eating enough for a guy your size.
    It could be your body as gone into starvation mode and is desperately trying to hang on to everything it's got. AND you'll be feeling miserable and deprived.
    Have you tried using an app that would work out your macros (that's how much protein fat and carbs that your body needs). You then make sure you eat to what it says.
    I used Carb Manager at first and was amazed how much I had to eat, but it meant I wasnt ever hungry and the weight fell off.
    When I first found this forum I thought "Just eat meat and fats, fast, skip meals!!!???" What me?, never. But it works, 18 months in and I happily miss a meal or 2 and am rarely hungry. When I am hungry I eat, and stopped full.
    It's too easy to think calories (quantity of food) must be low but on low carb is what, not how little
    A good supportive site which helps with macros and recipes and encourages eating is ketofitnessclub.com . Have a look as it's real people, like you and me. (So much out there is American, this guy is British)
     
  8. MrsA2

    MrsA2 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Oh, and stop concentrating on how far you have to go, instead celebrate how far you have come already!
     
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