LCHF=Low Carb High Fat.Hi. Don't panic. The first thing is to adjust your diet to reduce the carbs and have enough fat and protein to give you the calories and nutrients (LCHF really means Low-carb and Enough Fats). .
Thing is Mo that when you go low on carbs and eat a lot of fat, comparably, you eat enough fat to fill you up but you don't eat more than that as fat is very filling. It is close to impossible to over eat on fat but if you do nothing much happens. Fat is a healthy choice for all, not only diabetics so don't scare our new, already scared members unnecessarily.Lowering your carbs is a good idea and will certainly help control your BG levels but I would not advise high fat or high anything without talking to your doc first. Cheese and butter are fine but I'm not a fan of "high" as this implies you can eat in huge quantities. Good luck with the tests Starmaker and please keep us updated.
I'm not trying to scare anyone and I have never said fat is bad. Please re-read my original post. I just said anything in large quantities is not good. ThanksThing is Mo that when you go low on carbs and eat a lot of fat, comparably, you eat enough fat to fill you up but you don't eat more than that as fat is very filling. It is close to impossible to over eat on fat but if you do nothing much happens. Fat is a healthy choice for all, not only diabetics so don't scare our new, already scared members unnecessarily.
It can very easily be interpreted as such when you recommend people to talk to their doctors before they try LCHF. In my experience few Drs would recommend LCHF but rather the high carb diet we get pushed down our throats by all kinds of HCPs so that way may be a no-go and leave diabetics in a dire position. As I said, it is close to impossible to over eat on fat as it is very filling.I'm not trying to scare anyone and I have never said fat is bad. Please re-read my original post. I just said anything in large quantities is not good. Thanks
What part of my initial post could you misinterpret ? I would advise anyone who is diabetic to reduce carbs, I would also recommend anyone, who I don't have a clue about, to discuss any major changes to their diet with their healthcare provider. I also said fats were not bad and butter, cheese etc were fine. The only thing that is easy to misinterpret is LCHF. If I asked 20 people to write down what this actually meant, I'd probably get a large proportion of different answers.It can very easily be interpreted as such when you recommend people to talk to their doctors before they try LCHF. In my experience few Drs would recommend LCHF but rather the high carb diet we get pushed down our throats by all kinds of HCPs so that way may be a no-go and leave diabetics in a dire position. As I said, it is close to impossible to over eat on fat as it is very filling.
Me, I go through close to 200 grams of fat per day in order to get enough energy and to fill me up. I don't know if this amount is excessive in your opinion but it suits me.What part of my initial post could you misinterpret ? I would advise anyone who is diabetic to reduce carbs, I would also recommend anyone, who I don't have a clue about, to discuss any major changes to their diet with their healthcare provider. I also said fats were not bad and butter, cheese etc were fine. The only thing that is easy to misinterpret is LCHF. If I asked 20 people to write down what this actually meant, I'd probably get a large proportion of different answers.
So, to summarise, I think eating fats is good, I also believe reducing carbs is good. I don't like the acronym LCHF but that's personal opinion. I have no problem with whatever people choose to eat, I just want to point out that HF does not mean large quantities, which it could easily be mistaken for.
Totto, this is the last post from me as we keep going over and over the same things. Now, please take this on board. I am very happy you have found a diet that works for you, that's great. Will your diet suit all ? No. You mention you've never had good dietary advice from a HCP, does that mean you should advise all others to ignore theirs too ? No.You then mention I should try eating fat so I could see how filling it was ? Do you really think I don't eat fat ? There's a big difference between giving forum members friendly advice and forcing your own ideas on someone. Do you ever quote me telling people percentage wise how much of something they should eat ? If you wish to carry this conversation on further please use the PM facility as we are now spoiling the OP's thread.Me, I go through close to 200 grams of fat per day in order to get enough energy and to fill me up. I don't know if this amount is excessive in your opinion but it suits me.
I have never had any usable advice from a HCP regarding diet and certainly not since my recent diagnosis so your advice to ask a Dr about diet may be bad advice.
LCHF, as I currently do it, is 5E5 carbs, 15E% protein and 80E% fat. The result of this diet is perfectly normal and level bg, an energy I haven't had in a quarter of a century and weight loss. This macro-nutrient breakdown is common on LCHF.
I know you seem to find fat a good source of energy, so why warn people to talk to their Drs before they switch to LCHF? If you tried it yourself you would understand how filling fat is. And to us type 2s who aren't on insulin it can be vital to eat a lot of fat, as in 150-250 grams per day. And it has no adverse effects on health at all.
Right, so stop telling people to talk to their Dr or otherwise scare them of the high fat of LCHF: That is not friendly advice, that is bad advice and forcing your ideas on them. IMHO.Totto, this is the last post from me as we keep going over and over the same things. Now, please take this on board. I am very happy you have found a diet that works for you, that's great. Will your diet suit all ? No. You mention you've never had good dietary advice from a HCP, does that mean you should advise all others to ignore theirs too ? No.You then mention I should try eating fat so I could see how filling it was ? Do you really think I don't eat fat ? There's a big difference between giving forum members friendly advice and forcing your own ideas on someone. Do you ever quote me telling people percentage wise how much of something they should eat ? If you wish to carry this conversation on further please use the PM facility as we are now spoiling the OP's thread.
No, I will continue to advise members to consult with their HCP's when seeking to make big dietary changes. Same for sudden exercise as well. You or I know nothing of medical background or possible complications of any of the members on this forum. Quoting "IMHO" is fine but your advice is wrong. Clearly you have had a bad experience but don't assume we should all ignore medical advice because of this.Right, so stop telling people to talk to their Dr or otherwise scare them of the high fat of LCHF: That is not friendly advice, that is bad advice and forcing your ideas on them. IMHO.
Hi Starmaker123. You have to test before and after meals to get an idea of which foods cause large increases in your blood glucose.Thanks for all your replies guys - I must admit that now Im getting really worried! I have never heard of these tests, or LADA or the LCHF diet but will look into them. When I was doing my readings a couple times a week, they were okay but now that Im checking twice a day, they seem to be getting higher and Im feeling quite anxious which isn't helping matters. I am going to see someone tomorrow, who works in the area of diabetes so will see what she says. Thanks again.
LCHF=Low Carb High Fat.
Too much protein will make bg go up and may cause damage to the kidneys while fat is a completely safe and healthy choice, so long as you avoid margarine and most vegetable oils. Olive oil and coconut oil are fine though.
Point taken, but as Mo says in a later post there is no need to do High anything. The HF may encourage a few to stuff themselves with fat which won't help weight loss if it's excessive and for some it may affect the circulation. I accept it may be difficult to eat too much fat. Like Mo I don't like the acronym LCHF that has crept into the forum in recent months hence my own version LCEF; just my personal opinion.
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