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Specialists under fire for dismissing saturated fat link to heart disease

Discussion in 'Other Health Conditions and Diabetes' started by walnut_face, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. walnut_face

    walnut_face Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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  2. Robkww

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    Experts - who knows ......
    I do know cutting carbs significantly and exercising has sorted out my BS, improved my cholesterol and made me feel fitter than I have in over 20 years - keep taking the medicine!
     
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  3. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    I've ended up back on statins and no cheese. I don't want to take the risk while specialist decide what's right and wrong.
    Cardiologist advised statin so here I am. He stopped my aspirin. Still having chest pains...... I give up.
     
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    #3 ickihun, May 7, 2017 at 6:58 PM
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  4. Enclave

    Enclave Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member
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    Are your chest pains angina ?
     
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  5. welovedzig

    welovedzig Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    :-:)eek:
     
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  6. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    That was the 'eat real food' blurb?

    I must admit, I never did fancy all the plastic stuff that came with my daughters toy kitchen, although she did give some a try when she was teething.
    Couldn't disagree, any 'real food' would be better than imitation stuff.
     
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  7. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    They haven't given me any indication of angina, no treatment or med. In fact stopped aspirin but I think due to stroke risk more.
    I had to take aspirin last night to relieve chest pains. It worked. Seeing gp tomorrow for guidance. ill today so home with hubby. A bad night all round. I couldnt shift a hypo but sick of hospitals and coming home feeling no better. I stayed home.
    Knackered today and still heavy chest but no way as bad as yesterday. I'm sure gp will investigate further. I just needed a break from hospital/doctors/nurses appointments.
    Staying home today. I need the rest.
    GP appointment in the morning so I'm sure I can wait til then.
     
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  8. covknit

    covknit Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    I thought aspirin thinned the blood thereby reducing the risk of stroke and making it easier to get pregnant. (Very, very ancient snippet of info). Is it true diabetics used to be automatically prescribed aspirin?

    Have a restful day. My gran always reckoned sleep healed the body. Hope your GP has an answer for you tomorrow
     
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  9. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    Anything with no additives must be wholesome eh? The kids cerels are filled with extra vitamins. Do our kids need vit from other foods because they aren't eating what's naturally supplying these vit?
    Some kids do. They have very limited food range. Even some adults.
     
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  10. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    I was given aspirin like we are given statins when officially diagnosed in 2002 as a type2. Not sure about type1s. I think it depended on their health status.
    I personally wouldnt use aspirin to get pregnant. I think that could be dangerous.
     
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  11. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    Back to topic. I think I don't need cheese in my diet. I add weight eating it so due to being obese it would be detrimental to heart disease.
    Exercise is one of the best solution to reducing heart disease.
    I feel I only have it because I cannot exercise much. I wouldbe jogging, cycling and swimming again by now if I wwasn't in agony with my stupid back. Making enquires for a back specialist privately on wednesday.
    I need my mobility back!
     
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  12. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It seems to be a very popular mantra now, just join together a few words into a meaningless tag line and sell a book.

    'Eat real food'

    Go to a third world country, find a family that has lived off just a bag of rice for as long as they can remember.
    Food doesn't come any more real than that.
     
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  13. Oldvatr

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    There are different CVE that are classed as Stroke. One type is due to blocked plumbing in the brain leading to braincell loss (ischaemic), and the other is flooding damage due to burst blood vessel (Hemorrhagic)/ The third main cause of stroke is where the heart misfires and the blood clots but this is often mistaken for ischaemic since the after effects are the same.
    So treating ischaemic strokes is by using blood thinners (Aspirin or Warfarin) and stents, but this is the wrong treatment for hemorrhagic. There was a move to prescribe low dose aspirin for all, but diabetics seem more likely to suffer hemorrhagic.

    Long term use of aspirin can lead to collateral damage in the form of stomach ulcers and internal bleeding, so long term use is no longer advised.
     
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    If your getting chest pain when resting and when exercising then it could be unstable angina .. took ages for my Dr to realise I had unstable angina, as its not to common. You should ask your Dr if you can have a Nitromin spray (glyceryl trinitrate)
    to stop the chest pain.
     
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    Oldvatr Type 2 · Expert

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    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    I will ask. Seeing gp in the morning. Wish me luck!
     
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  17. Art Of Flowers

    Art Of Flowers I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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