Summary of latest research on the causes of Type 2

HairySmurf

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The latest article from Prof Roy Taylor is now available on The Lancet site - Link. Reading the full text is free but requires registering an account with The Lancet.

In the paper Taylor has a table listing all the suspected causes of Type 2 that have been suggested in recent years and his counter-arguments. He goes on to explain his research in a way that appears to be intended for doctors to read quickly, the TL;DR version. He also elaborates on something extremely interesting - Taylor might actually have identified a reason why going low-carb is a very fine approach indeed to achieving remission.

From the article:

"The earliest indicator of increased risk of type 2 diabetes is insulin resistance in muscle, a familial characteristic. The everyday practical effect of muscle insulin resistance is the minimal storage of meal-derived carbohydrate as muscle glycogen. In people with muscle insulin resistance, less than 10% of meal carbohydrate is stored in skeletal muscle within 5 h of eating compared with over 30% in people with higher muscle insulin sensitivity. Muscle glycogen concentrations peak around 5 h after a meal and, during a typical day of eating, rise sequentially after each meal. Overnight, concentrations decrease back to the fasting baseline, most likely by exporting lactate to the liver to supply gluconeogenesis. Hence, skeletal muscle acts as a dynamic buffer contributing to the maintenance of plasma glucose within narrow limits. The postprandial storage of glycogen in the liver is determined by the rate of glucose delivery and is similar in people with or without type 2 diabetes and non-diabetic controls.

The glucose not stored in muscle has to be diverted into the alternative pathway of glucose conversion to fat via de novo lipogenesis. De novo lipogenesis produces palmitic acid only, a saturated fatty acid, which is the most potent fatty acid in decreasing β-cell function."

What he's saying here is that the specific saturated fat molecule which the liver produces when it converts carbs into fat is particularly potent at 'switching off' the cells in the pancreas that produce insulin. This fat travels from the liver to the pancreas via VLDL particles (blood triglycerides, basically). My interpretation of this is that eating less carbs might logically result in less of this specific fat type being produced in the body, which might lessen the effect in the pancreas, which might, perhaps, bring about remission a little quicker or maybe even having lost less weight that Taylor suggests is necessary. High blood triglyceride levels might not be such a big problem if the specific fat type contained within the VLDL particles is less harmful to the pancreas.

Do carbs cause diabetes? Well.. actually, that might well be part of it. Maybe. Taylor doesn't say that (at all) but if some fats are worse than others, and excess carbs become the worst kind of fat, it would explain a few things I didn't personally understand about people's varying individual experiences when trying to achieve remission.

Would kindly request that a person read the article that is the subject of this thread, and understand what it says, before commenting.
 

Resurgam

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I had decades of being hammered with the advice that carbs were healthy choices - I think that type 2 diabetes is caused by HCPs being unwilling to accept what their patients tell them that eating carbs makes them feel unwell and put on weight.
Diet controlled (whatever fundamental cause) should be a natural option for those who obviously need it, less of the sarcasm insults abuse etc which is usually dished out along with the diet sheets for heavy in carbs and low in fat eating which have done so much damage to so many, both mentally and physically.
 

Lamont D

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I'm not (obviously) questioning his reasoning at all.
But other research, suggests that in some, over time, certain foodstuffs, not proven it is carbs or sugar, affect your cells to cause inflammation. Once certain cells are prone to inflammation, the rest of the hormonal imbalance follows.
One of the reasons that keto works on some is the body adjusts to having energy from muscle rather than the process of carbs. No carbs mean less stress on those inflammatory cells, and new cells are not inflamed.
The stress of overproduction of insulin/hormones, because of insulin resistance has a huge effect/ impact on the health of your organs.
The reason I was misdiagnosed T2 in 2009, was because of overproduction of insulin, caused by many factors. Including insulin resistence. If the doctors had tested my insulin overproduction in the second phase, the amount of insulin was very high and my circulating insulin after food was the cause of my hypos.
The fundamental reason for the abnormal high spikes is that insulin is not used, and the reason for lethargy, tiredness, other symptoms is that the process of energy derived from glucose/insulin is necessary. If it doesn't happen with Insulin resistance, energy levels crash.
Insulin overproduction in many is the reason behind T2. Which is why many T2s are obese.
I was nearly 18 stone before diagnosis, and I ate very little, but most of it was carbs, so called healthy carbs, recommended by every medical staff I had, until my endo.
There is not just one reason for T2.
There is probably more reasons, as the change to a more less fresh food diet comes about.
 

Reikikate

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Just a personal take on the subject: I recently had a metabolic DNA test done which hilighted for me that we are all unique individuals with a variety of genes switched on or off or mutated. So I have had the intuition that a very low carb diet where fats are the energy source is not good for me. Turns out I have a genetic glitch that means fats get into my blood fast but my body doesn't have the ability to use them efficiently (slow uptake). Another significant factor is that there's a significant glitch in adiponectin pathway leading to reduced ability to manage glucose levels and fat oxidation. Being female and post menopause also complicates the situation!
 

In Response

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Do carbs cause diabetes? Well.. actually, that might well be part of it. Maybe.
If that is the case, why can two people follow a very similar diet yet only one of them be diagnosed with type 2.
My feeling is that there is no one simple thing that causes type 2 but rather a number (e.g, eating a high carb diet) which can increase the risk.
 
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