librarising said:This probably covers much the same territory (for which read medical history/research) as Gary Taubes' Good Calories, Bad Calories (aka The Diet Delusion.)
[youtube]fvKdYUCUca8[/youtube]
Warning !!!! It's two hours long (I'm only half way through) so you might want to save it for a morning/afternoon/evening session.
You'll learn a lot just by watching it, including why lettuce causes heart disease, and what 'risk' may actually mean or not mean.
Geoff
Sid Bonkers said:Sally Fannon? Really?
I think you will find that is Sally Fallon (Morell) who probably has more critics than fans, a co founder of the Weston A Price Foundation (WAPF) who has advised people to drink raw milk!!!
Well I can, its dispensed from a machine in the car park of a local supermarketlI'd drink raw milk if I could get my hands on it.
lots of debates; it didn't happen without oppositionWhat will pasteurisation do? Can we depend on it to give us a pure milk supply? Ninety-eight per cent. of the milk in London is pasteurised. Repeated tests for tubercule bacilli have been made during the last four years. I took the trouble to make inquiries, and I find that tubercule bacilli have not been found in one case in the commercially pasteurised milk in London during the last four years. There are certain other figures which are useful as regards London. The Parliamentary Secretary did mention them, but I should like to extend them a little. Abdominal tuberculosis in children in 80 per cent. of cases is due to drinking milk. In 1944 London, with its pasteurised milk, has had a very low death rate from abdominal tuberculosis in children under five. In that year figures were carefully analysed, and the death rate was only one-tenth of that of the combined rural districts. In Toronto, where milk has been compulsorily pasteurised since 1915, I am informed that in ten years they have not had a single case of any form of bovine tuberculosis, although 26 per cent. of the milk entering that city contained the germs of tuberculosis.
It is not only tuberculosis in milk that will be eliminated by pasteurisation. There are other diseases carried by milk. There is undulent fever, as the Parliamentary Secretary mentioned, and this accounts for not fewer than 500 patients a year. There are also many epidemics due to the infection of milk by those who handle it. Between 1912 and 1937 there were in Britain 115 epidemics of dysentery, scarlet fever, typhoid and septic sore throat, involving 14,000 people, which were found to be due to milk. The trouble is that people who handle milk, however careful they may be, cannot be sure that they are not infecting it, because these diseases may be carried by people who do not know that they have them. I consider that only by pasteurisation can infection by such diseases through milk be eliminated with certainty
borofergie said:Sid Bonkers said:Sally Fannon? Really?
I think you will find that is Sally Fallon (Morell) who probably has more critics than fans, a co founder of the Weston A Price Foundation (WAPF) who has advised people to drink raw milk!!!
I'd drink raw milk if I could get my hands on it. I'm a big fan of (most of) what Weston A Price said.
She missed a trick there... the data must surely be available to produce the chart though..I really wanted to see a slide in that presentation giving vegetable oil consumption as a percentage of the national diet alongside deaths from Coronary events and it should show a direct relationship with percentage consumption increasing in step with the death rate increasing... and additional line showing the reducing saturated fat percentage of the national diet would really push home the message...
Now obviously lots of factors other than diet may be involved eg: improved surgical intervention, improved medications and fewer people smoking.The number of people dying from coronary
heart disease (CHD) has more than halved from
166,000 in 1961 to about 80,000 in 2009.
Defren said:I have watched this video a couple of times, over the space of a couple of months, there is so much information once wasn't enough. This is the web site for the Weston Price Foundation: http://www.westonaprice.org/ It has all kinds of useful information, although obviously aimed at the USA.
This is a group of people Mary G. Enig, PhD in particular who have taken the food industry to task by showing how the 'facts' about our healthy diet are manipulated to suit the industry, not the people. Mary lost all her funding through upsetting the food industry, when she showed the lies, and proved how and why it was done.
For anyone who really cares about what they are putting in their body, this video is a must!
GraceK said:Defren said:I have watched this video a couple of times, over the space of a couple of months, there is so much information once wasn't enough. This is the web site for the Weston Price Foundation: http://www.westonaprice.org/ It has all kinds of useful information, although obviously aimed at the USA.
This is a group of people Mary G. Enig, PhD in particular who have taken the food industry to task by showing how the 'facts' about our healthy diet are manipulated to suit the industry, not the people. Mary lost all her funding through upsetting the food industry, when she showed the lies, and proved how and why it was done.
For anyone who really cares about what they are putting in their body, this video is a must!
Wow! That's a brilliant website Defren.
Superchip said:Should be mandatory viewing for all 11year olds upwards to Uni.
phoenix said:Well I can, its dispensed from a machine in the car park of a local supermarketlI'd drink raw milk if I could get my hands on it.
(just like this one , and 'open' 24 hours)
http://www.americansinfrance.net/attrac ... achine.cfm)
I know that it comes from a local producer and because he sells raw milk, his herd and dairy is very closely inspected. The milk is not pooled with other milks so there no questions about traceability so I have bought it and drunk it.
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