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Type 2 UTI Infections

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by Redmatson, Jan 9, 2018.

  1. Redmatson

    Redmatson Type 2 · Newbie

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    Does anyone suffer with chronic uti infections while on Jardiance for type 2 diabetes?
     
  2. ringi

    ringi Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It is a well-known side effect, to reduce the risk of UTI infections.
    • Drink lots of water
    • Avoid eating or drinking anything that contains sugar
    • Avoid food that contains a lot of carbs, remember carbs become sugar when we eat them.
    By putting less sugar into your body, Jardiance removes less sugar, therefore the UTI is given less sugar to feed on. @daisy1 will soon be along to explain the basics of carbs to you.
     
  3. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend

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    @Redmatson

    Hello Redmatson and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask questions when you want and someone will help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
    Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

    • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

    • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
     
  4. B r e e

    B r e e Type 2 · Member

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    Where can I learn what mmol numbers are? I go based off mg. Thanks!
     
  5. Clivethedrive

    Clivethedrive Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]hope this helps
     
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  6. B r e e

    B r e e Type 2 · Member

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    Thank you Clive!
     
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  7. bestazy

    bestazy Type 1 · Newbie

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    Hey everyone. I'm just really worried at the moment. I have a UTI, I started to take Nitrofurantoin yesterday for it 4 times a day for 3 days. Tomorrow at 11 am will be my second day. Should I be feeling any different by now?? So far i've taken 5 tablets out of the 12. What i'm...All the best.Bestazy.
     
  8. Geminigirl

    Geminigirl Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi, I have been on Jardiance for a week, along with Glimeperimide. I am drinking lots of water and cutting a lot of carbs and so far so good. However, I do feel a bit "tender" and am wondering if a bout of Thrush is on its way.
    May I ask how long you have been on it and how it is working for you?
    I am on 10mg for now, with a view to see how it goes for a while, possibility it will increase to the 25mg later on.
    Thankyou.
     
  9. Clivethedrive

    Clivethedrive Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @bestazy,I am on Trimethoprim 200mg since 28 th dec’17, so far it has not touched my prostitus,I more week to go.......painful let me know how you get on as was told ...Nitrofurantoin was more effective ? Clive
     
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    flowerthym Type 2 · Member

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    Yes, I did so after 3 months the drug was stopped. It did lower my blood glucose levels considerably though.
     
  11. ringi

    ringi Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    GPs can send a sample to the lab to check what antibiotics (or combination) will work best, however, they tend not to do so until the first few have failed. There are no reasons the sample can't be sent at the start, so the results are ready if the first treatment fails. A sample should also be tested to confirm treatment have worked 100% at the end of the antibiotics.

    Remember the Jardiance can be stopped for a short time to help with clearing up a UTI.

    Personally, I think GPs should be a lot more aggressive in the treatment of UTI when people are on drugs like Jardiance, doing everything possible to sort out the UTI, at the first possible time, rather than just hoping it will clear with mild antibiotics. (Most UTI do clear up with mild antibiotics, but most people are not taking Jardiance!)

    I see the benefits of Jardiance as being so great, that UTI infections in people who are taking Jardiance with be given priority.
     
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