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Can anyone advise me I'm type two and take 1000 metformin twice a day. 18 units. of humulin I twice a day 10 units of byetta twice a day and can't stop putting on weight I have since January I have been on a very strict diet trying to lose weight as I have to have a new hip replacement can't get that done till I have lost 4 stones I'm in so much pain What can I do I really don't eat anything that is not good for my diet no sweets crisps or sugary things I don't smoke or drink alcohol I drink plenty of water I am so down just now and I feel no one listens
Hope that someone has some advise or something that can help lease x
 

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Hi what do you generally eat in a day as the amount of carbs you are consuming might be the problem. LCHF might be a good option for you to try.
 

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Hi what do you generally eat in a day as the amount of carbs you are consuming might be the problem. LCHF might be a good option for you to try.
Have two weetabix and banana or porridge in the morning cup a soup and two crackers with light spreading cheese or tuna for lunch and chicken and vegetables for dinner lots of water during the day I don't understand why I am so heavy
 

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Unfortunately the weetabix, banana and crackers wont be doing you any favours. Have you considered having an omelette or scrambled eggs for breakfast. I am currently doing LCHF and I have found it great for losing weight so it might be worth a try. You will always have people here who will listen to you so keep your chin up.
 
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I'll tag @daisy1 for you. She has some basic information to help with your food choices.

Are you testing your blood sugars? I ask because this will give you a better idea of which foods you need to have smaller portions of or eliminate from your diet. These include potatoes, rice, pasta, bread and cereals.

It is that carbohydrates that cause the rise in blood sugars and you will find your own personal threshold by testing. It varies from person to person as to what is a safe level.
 

AndBreathe

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Can anyone advise me I'm type two and take 1000 metformin twice a day. 18 units. of humulin I twice a day 10 units of byetta twice a day and can't stop putting on weight I have since January I have been on a very strict diet trying to lose weight as I have to have a new hip replacement can't get that done till I have lost 4 stones I'm in so much pain What can I do I really don't eat anything that is not good for my diet no sweets crisps or sugary things I don't smoke or drink alcohol I drink plenty of water I am so down just now and I feel no one listens
Hope that someone has some advise or something that can help lease x


You may have a bit of a double whammy going on there lizzyjoj, in that some folks find taking insulin makes them at a greater risk of gaining weight. That coupled with the many, many T2s experiencing insulin resistance, isn't helpful. I don't know if you are familiar with insulin resistance, but putting it as simply as I can, insulin resistance is where the individual's body can't cope with the insulin in it; whether naturally produced or injected. When that is the case, the excess insulin the body can't use to deal with blood sugars, is used for its other function which is to instruct the body to lay down fat. Unfortunately, it can be a viscous circle. Because our sugars are high, we need more insulin to deal with them, our bodies can't cope, so we top it up and the excess "makes us" gain weight.

Obviously all of that stinks, when it's your (or my) body in that situation. But there is a way to improve things, usually quite a lot.. And that is to alter what we eat, so that our bodies don't generate the blood sugar in the first place. If we don't produce the blood sugar, we don't need to much insulin, and by that virtue there is likely to be less stress on your body to lay down fat.

I don't know if all that helps, but the way we generally reduce our blood sugars is to control what we eat. For T2s, diet is utterly, utterly critical. Medications help, but the biggest, strongest and best way to make improvements to blood sugars (and weight usually goes along with this), is to eat less of the stuff that pushes our bloods up. Again, simplistically, that is usually bread, potatoes, pasta, cereals and many fruits. Clearly sugar is in there too! So, we need to curb the carbohydrates.

I was only diagnosed in October 2014, and have never taken any medication, so I realise I am truly fortunate, but by reducing the levels of carbohydrates I was eating, I have managed to return to non-diabetic blood levels for the last 18 months. I was only concerned about improving my sugars, but along the way I lost my love handles. I lost my modest muffin top and my backside (and bosom) disappeared, and it was quick for me.

Now obviously everyone is different, and not everyone loses weight quickly, but many do, and many more lose weight; albeit more slowly.

Lots of people here talk about LCHF, which stands for Low Carb High Fat. Initially, I just concentrated on reducing carbs, then once I got towards being skinny thought about adjusting my fats, but not everyone approaches it in the same way. If you have 4 stones to lose and would like to have a go at potentially reducing the amount of insulin you need to inject, I'd say it'd be worth giving this a good shot?

We have quite a few folks who come here when they have a pre-op weight target to achieve, or they have just failed their pre-op assessments for either weight or blood scores, so there will be people able to support you.

Good luck with it all.
 
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daisy1

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@lizzyjogo

I expect you have read the excellent replies above. Here is the information we give to new members which I think will help you further. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Brunneria

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Hi

If you follow the suggestions people have made, it will make a big difference to your weight, and your blood glucose levels - but of course, that will also impact on your insulin requirements - because you are on a fixed dose.

I would suggest that you make any changes to your diet slowly, and gradually, and discuss adjusting your insulin with your diabetic team, if your blood glucose starts to drop more than usual.
 
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Daibell

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Yes, your problem is diet. It's not just the sugar but all carbs that are bad for us. Bananas and all tropical fruits are best avoided as are grain products, potatoes, rice, pasta and so on. Protein, fats and veg are fine. Yes, you would need to reduce your insulin as the carbs reduce.