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Which Water is best

oopsie

oopsie

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
Hi folks. just over 2 weeks diagnosed type2, never had a thirst before, but after reading the threads I decided to up my water intake. The more I drank the drier my mouth (no spit) became, so I've drunk more. Question is, could it be the nitrates in bottled water causing it as some have a higher sodium than others & we all know salt makes you thirsty.
 
What are your blood sugar levels at during that time? High blood sugar levels will cause your kidneys to work extra hard to filter excess glucose. As you drink more water, your body attempts to remove that excess glucose through your urine.

It almost always goes away after getting your blood sugar levels down to normal levels.
 
TorqPenderloin said:
What are your blood sugar levels at during that time? High blood sugar levels will cause your kidneys to work extra hard to filter excess glucose. As you drink more water, your body attempts to remove that excess glucose through your urine.

It almost always goes away after getting your blood sugar levels down to normal levels.
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Hi, I was diagnosed at 8, since then my levels has gone down. I've been in the 4's all this week, 4,4 this morning, but my dry mouth is getting drier.
 
If you reduce the amount of water you drink does the problem go away?

Secondly, about how much are you drinking (pints or litres)?

Thirdly, what is wrong with tap water?

Oh, and fourthly what else have you changed in the last couple of weeks?:)
 
LittleGreyCat said:
If you reduce the amount of water you drink does the problem go away?

Secondly, about how much are you drinking (pints or litres)?

Thirdly, what is wrong with tap water?

Oh, and fourthly what else have you changed in the last couple of weeks?:)
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Never tried reducing to see if it goes away. I have the 500ml bottles, so yesterday it works out to nearly 8.7 pints. Tap waters horrible were I am.. In the last 2 weeks I've cut in your face carbs, pasta, potatoes, bread etc, but I have really upped my green veg intake, spinach, kale etc as I was also diagnosed with anemia.
 
Using a web calculator that seems to be roughly 5 litres.

That seems to be quite a lot unless you are doing something to use up a lot of water, such as prolonged intensive exercise.

The (unsupported by any science) recommendation for water (not just drinking but also in food) is 2 litres per day.

I think you may have fallen prey to "newbie syndrome" where you go overboard trying to do things to fix the problems related to your new diagnosis. I remember doing all sorts of things (like eating huge bowls of muesli with lots of fruit because it was "healthy") before everything slowly sank in. Took me about 6 months to really work out what was going on, and I'm still learning more each day.

Personally I would cut back the water drinking by perhaps half (2.5 litres per day) remembering that too much water can be bad for you and upset your body chemistry.

Scary reading at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication and http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugxtc1.html.

Hopefully your drinking is spread out evenly over the day.

Full marks for your diet change - you sound to be going for it! :)
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Using a web calculator that seems to be roughly 5 litres.

That seems to be quite a lot unless you are doing something to use up a lot of water, such as prolonged intensive exercise.

The (unsupported by any science) recommendation for water (not just drinking but also in food) is 2 litres per day.

I think you may have fallen prey to "newbie syndrome" where you go overboard trying to do things to fix the problems related to your new diagnosis. I remember doing all sorts of things (like eating huge bowls of muesli with lots of fruit because it was "healthy") before everything slowly sank in. Took me about 6 months to really work out what was going on, and I'm still learning more each day.

Personally I would cut back the water drinking by perhaps half (2.5 litres per day) remembering that too much water can be bad for you and upset your body chemistry.

Scary reading at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication and http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugxtc1.html.

Hopefully your drinking is spread out evenly over the day.

Full marks for your diet change - you sound to be going for it! :)
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I thought it was a bit much , had 10 bottles yesterday, I've never ate breakfast, tea/coffee, didn't like bread much, but I did like pasta. Yes I'm a all or nothing (54 tomorrow) old school. I still think my anemia gave false readings as I have monthly blood tests for other conditions :)
 
I think that 2 litres of water a day is a rough guide, based on the average person.
Since the average person (height and weight) doesn't really exist, I prefer using a rough guide of 1 litre for every 5 stone (70 pounds, or 32kg) of body weight.
- That figure is from reading several different websites, from the you MUST drink pure mountain spring water and nothing else websites, to reading coffee and tea and liquid in food counts as part of your liquid intake, and what is all the fuss about? websites.

Really, we all just have to make up our own minds about amounts - allowing for the hot weather we have been having lately, of course.

One thing I have noticed is that now I am drinking more than I used to, my body seems more comfortable, somehow, and my sense of thirst has kind of 'woken up'. I think for a long time I used to have crossed wires (apparently it is very easily done) and I used to snack and have a small cup a coffee, when a big glass of water would have done the job better. :)

In terms of diabetic thirst, we tend to wee a lot when our blood glucose rises above 10mmol/l, which may be happening for you, even if you test daily and see 4s. Ideally you should be testing before food and at 2 hours after, to see if you are spiking after food.

The one thing you don't want to do is get dehydrated by cutting down liquid intake if you are thirsty because you need it - do you know the self test for dehydration? The one where you pinch the back of your hand, and if the skin snaps back flat you are hydrated, and if it stays raised, or flattens more slowly, then you are dehydrated.

Hope that helps. :)
 
I think I would go to the GP's in a couple of days if your thirst doesn't decrease, normally it is associated with higher sugar levels, but this doesn't seem to be the case with you.
I am sure it is nothing to worry about but I would check if I were you.

Edited to add Brunneria makes some very good points above:)
 
Check your bottled water's nutritional information label a lot of products that appear to be flavoured water are loaded with hidden sugars.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Are you sure it is thirst you are experiencing? A dry (no spit) mouth does not necessarily indicate thirst. It can be other things. The "treatment" is normally to take regular small sips of water, which does not mean great big gulps all at once.
The NHS has advice here
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/dry-mouth/Pages/Introduction.aspx
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Thanks, yes it's sips but was amazed how much it added up to. I read the link & I don't have any signs (apart from the diabetes) I clicked the link for diabetes & no symptoms there either. What I mean is I don't have the symptoms of diabetes, (never had any signs) don't wee alot, never tired (more of an insomniac) no itching etc
 
oopsie said:
Thanks, yes it's sips but was amazed how much it added up to. I read the link & I don't have any signs (apart from the diabetes) I clicked the link for diabetes & no symptoms there either. What I mean is I don't have the symptoms of diabetes, (never had any signs) don't wee alot, never tired (more of an insomniac) no itching etc
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In that case I would mention it to your dentist or GP.

I have this same issue as you, but only when I wake in the morning, or during the night. I have no saliva in my mouth and a bitter taste. I put it down to sleeping with my mouth open. It certainly isn't thirst or dehydration, nor is it high BS levels or indeed anything to do with diabetes because I have had it for as long as I can remember. I just have one or two sips of water and all is well .... until the next time. :).
 
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