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Why do some people not take T2 serious

Discussion in 'Diabetes Soapbox - Have Your Say' started by daffy1, Jan 1, 2022.

  1. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    Yes. Acceptance. I dont like to drink alcohol. My metabolism has me nauseous after even half a small glass of light wine. Yet people still wont/cant accept my choice to not drink alcohol. There is so much of this type of thinking about. Even in this day and age there is a lot of unenlightened people around.
     
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  2. coby

    coby Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @lucylocket61 I have only had two occasions where I felt it best to accept alcohol (that I knew I wouldn't drink) One was being introduced to all the Fire Service team at a xmas get together where they were all bringing me glasses of wine to my table. I graciously accepted, took a small sip from each as they arrived, and then just left them. No one noticed since they were all celebrating :) The other was a similar situation in a pub. I hope this helps anyone in that situation as everyone is happy then x
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    I've found that "I'm a recovering alcoholic" works quite well with most people.
     
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  4. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    I do the same.
     
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  5. MrsA2

    MrsA2 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    And remember that there have been trillions of £ and $ spent on years and years of advertising to get everyone used to normalising what were occasional treats.

    We are fighting a megalith industry just there to part us from our money with no thought to the health of anyone other than their profits and bank accounts
     
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  6. AloeSvea

    AloeSvea Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I know this is a negative and pessimistic interpretation of human behaviour as it occurs sometimes - but sometimes folks can gift with malevolent intent! I know it's awful. But I do believe this does happen sometimes. Families and even acquantanceships can be complex - sometimes! And there is ill-will behind that box of Christmas chocolate chip cookies given to a known type two diabetic.
     
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  7. dancer

    dancer Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I've lost count of the number of people who have said to me, "Oh, you have the SERIOUS kind of diabetes, so have to be careful what you eat!" I always point out that all types of diabetes are serious. Some are surprised to hear this, while others suddenly remember hearing of a friend of a friend having serious problems with Type 2.
    Our memories can be poor at times, hence boxes of chocolates as gifts. On the other hand, you can always put it down to Christmas shopping stress. As someone who is allergic to lots of things, including perfumes, I have been handed gifts and told, "You'll be able to use at least one thing in here." The gift was a make up bag or box containing perfumed soap, bath/shower gel and moisturiser. The thing I could use was the make up bag/box. I have come to accept this and try not to let it affect my Christmas gift choices the following year. Admittedly that can be difficult.
     
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    RosemaryJackson · Well-Known Member

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    I have been type 2 since 2009. At first, I too thought it was just an inconvenience. But then I realised why I was always falling asleep and took it more seriously. I'm very lucky, my friends all know and they actually help me to stay on track.
     
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    Outlier · Well-Known Member

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    Those are proper friends.
     
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  10. welovedzig

    welovedzig Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    When I took my Dad to 'Desmonds' (eat what you like NHS advice) there were people there who'd had it for years and not done anything about it, even when losing limbs. We give any '****' to food banks too.
     
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  11. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    @dancer, not just our memories are poor, especially as you say, at stressful times. but the awareness / knowledge is just not there in the first place. I live next door to an organisation. Before Christmas a volunteer very kindly came round to my door with a card and a box of chocolates. I didn't want to accept the chocolates only to throw them away, so I refused explaining why. She said, "Oh, but they're vegan"!
    However, when I reflect I realise that in the fairly recent past I was almost totally ignorant about diabetes, and I am still totally ignorant about many serious chronic health conditions and the needs of those who endure them. I hope sufferers will be patient with me and my blunders, and I remind myself to be patient with others who don't understand, maybe just haven't the time and attention to understand, my particular needs.
     
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  12. Outlier

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    You are a much nicer person than I am. I feel that if someone says "No" to something, it's important for their wishes to be respected rather than be pressed to give details/change their mind.
     
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  13. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    As a brief aside, I am constantly surprised at how many people think that a food is good for them, and they can eat as much as they want of it, if it is labelled very low fat or vegan. Critical thinking seems to be a rarer skill, which is concerning in an age where we are bombarded with conflicting information.
     
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  14. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    @Outlier, thank-you so much for the compliment, although ill-deserved! I do think some tolerance has come with age, as I look back (from the height, or depth, of my 79 years) on so many stupid opinions and actions I perpetrated in the past. How did anyone put up with me, let alone be my friend? And yet I also find myself boiling with rage and having to switch off the radio when certain views are aired.
    Yes, of course our wishes should be respected, particularly when medical needs are involved. I plan sometime to reply to the question, "Don't you like (doughnuts or etc)?" "Yes, but I like my feet more." Calculated thoroughly to embarrass and maybe horrify the questioner. Disclaimer - I did not come up with this. I wish I could remember who did.
     
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  15. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    As is the most basic knowledge of nutrition.
     
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    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    @lucylocket61 This used to be me!!! I would buy 10 almost overripe peaches for £1 in the market and scoff at least half at one go. Healthy fruit, right? I was going to live forever. I used to worry that the market might be closed down, but long before that happened (due of course to Covid) I was closed down. No more peaches, but a lot more knowledge. It sounds like the legend of the garden of Eden!
     
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  17. Alexandra100

    Alexandra100 Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    @welovedzig, during the first lockdown a friend rang me specially to tell me I might be eligible for free weekly food boxes, delivered to my house. I knew without checking, what turned out to be true - there was not one food item in those boxes I could safely have eaten.
     
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  18. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Expert

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    I agree.
    That said, I also think we need to take it upon ourselves to educate those close to us.
    I also think I need to take my own advice seriously! That was one of my New Year's plans -- to manage my own T2 better and also set a good example for my T2 friend.
    Thanks for your post -- hopefully I can do better than I've been doing the past 3 weeks ...
     
  19. Jaylee

    Jaylee Type 1 · Moderator
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    Hi,

    A number of posts were deleted as off topic.

    This thread regards inappropriate gifts in confliction with a diabetic's individual diet.

    Please stay within the boundaries.

    Thanx in advance.
     
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