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You can eat your normal diet

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by achyut1939, Aug 28, 2019.

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  1. achyut1939

    achyut1939 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If there is high insulin resistance, there are other medicines available presently to control diabetes, which can be used on doctor's prescription.
     
  2. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Just making the point that some of us define low carb as below 100 grams or below. The 130 grams comes from the mainstream view about the amount of glucose to fuel the brain I believe.
     
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  3. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Or people can simply change what they eat...remain medication free and thrive?
     
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  4. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The definition of low carb in this reference is below 130g per day.
    https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diabetes-diet.html
    Ironically the American Diabetes Association does not recommend reducing carbs below 130g per day probably for the brain requirement you mention..
     
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  5. Walking Girl

    Walking Girl Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Even non-diabetics get all of the same complications, just at lower rates. High BG is a clearly defined risk factor, but there are clearly other “causes” science just do know about yet. (Take the latest study result from Kentucky University showing it may be fat metabolism defects to blame). So I think it’s not correct to jump to an assumption that a person must have had uncontrolled BG.
     
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    zand Type 2 · Master

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    It's just as likely to be high insulin levels for many years before T2 diagnosis that causes complications later on even if BGs are well controlled now.

    And as for drugs to combat IR...I can't get metformin anymore as my HbA1c is less than 48. The only way I can help myself is through diet and exercise.
     
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  7. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    My last two HbA1c tests were low as well but I am still prescribed metformin as I put the argument of it helping with weight control to my GP and he agreed.
     
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    zand Type 2 · Master

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    Mine doesn't agree. Weight is all about CICO...grrrr.
     
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    loiphamp Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    yes
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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  11. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I go by what LCHF / Keto kings and queens say who have been in this space for ages and have clinical practices, I.e. the Dr's I respect and am guided by.
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    I guesstimate that I eat no more than 100 to 130 grams of carbs per day. What I do know is that is considerably lower than I used to eat before February. By that standard my diet is a low carb diet. I dont actually know what level of carbs I was eating before but I was eating rice, pasta, potato’s, sweets, cakes, a fair number of pieces of fruit a day (practically the 7), dried fruit, porridge, plenty of fruit juice and / or fruit smoothies etc etc so it may well have been 300 to 500 grams of carbs per day.
     
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  13. Walking Girl

    Walking Girl Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    They don’t really know why Metformin helps with weight loss, but the prevailing theory is it’s by reducing your appetite. It worked that way for me. Lower appetite = fewer calories consumed. That’s not inconsistent with your doctors belief, so that’s weird.
     
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  14. zand

    zand Type 2 · Master

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    It helps with IR too. Not sure how, but it does.
     
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  15. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    You can't outrun a bad diet.... forever.
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    It depends very much on what stage one is diagnosed. I must have been T2 for quite some time but I presented with no symptoms and was diagnosed after a routine blood test. There are others like me and there are those who are so afraid of the condition that they hide their hands in the sand. Then there are those who are very unlucky and never hear of different approaches to tackling their condition.
     
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    karen8967 Type 1 · Master

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    Yes in an ideal world but even at very low carb type 1s still need insulin but again yes yes yes
     
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    #117 karen8967, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:47 PM
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  18. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    There is actually no effective pharmacological options for insulin resistance...if there is, it would have been a blockbluster first line drug... metformin is the current first line T2D drug... but only marginally effective.

    The effective intervention is resistance exercise to build up muscles to help soak up the excess glucose and an insulin sparing diet/lifestyle to return some insulin sensitivity.

    But the latest fad in the pharma arsenal is SGLT2 inhibitors... so that we can have our cakes and pee it. And still get CVD, CKD and mortality benefits. Win for big pharma, Win for big food, Win for Doctors prescribing it. What's not to like? Only some inconvenient and sometimes deadly side effect...
     
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  19. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    You could have a little salt and pepper with that maybe.:)

    In fact I don't think I would be able to eat that as it may have fluoride in it and fluoride raises blood sugar.
     
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  20. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You would find that Dr are more than happy with higher glucose levels for the elderly because of the risks of accidental injuries or death due to hypoglycemia.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3889320/

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    https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20180309acpdiabetes.html
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    I am afraid the odds have been stacked against many T2D...
     
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