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Mitch64

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Hi All, im very new to this site and diabeties in general, hubby was given the news yesterday type2, trying to get anything out of is fustrating me as i have no idea what I should be doing, if anything, and dont want to set him up. So any help and advice will be ace. Am i still ok to give the box of thortons i bought him for valentines?
 
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@Mitch64 - Hello and Welcome to the Forum.:) I will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all newbies receive. Have a read through and ask any questions you may have? Someone will come along and answer.:)
 
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Hi and welcome,

I certainly wouldn't give him the box of chocs you bought him, not if you want to start as you mean to go on. Sweets, choccies, cakes, biscuits, anything sugary at all are to be avoided. Sugar is just one form of carbohydrate, and you will learn from reading this forum that the way to reduce sugar levels in the blood is to cut right down on all carbs. Apart from sugar, rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, cereals and anything made with flour are all likely to raise those blood sugar levels.

Do have a good read round, and read Daisie's post when she arrives, noting carefully the role of carbohydrates.

Your best present for him would be a blood glucose meter and test strips. Using these before a meal and a couple of hours later will show him just what his food does to his levels, and he can use this information to tweak his diet accordingly.

Good luck.
 
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@Mitch64

Hello Mitch and welcome to the forum :) The best way to help your husband is for him to follow a low carb diet. See the information below which we give to new members for more detail. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

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Hi @Mitch64 and welcome to the forum. Eat the chocolates yourself (if you aren't diabetic or pre-diabetic) and give him a bottle of red wine instead! :)
 
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Hi. If you do give him the chocolates, allow him only one a day! The amount of carbs in each chocolate won't be too high, but ideally avoid them. You could eat them yourself and buy him some bars of Green & Blacks 85% Dark Chocolate. The carb level is very low and this make is the smoothest of the 85% bunch.
 

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Hi @Mitch64 and welcome to the forum. Eat the chocolates yourself (if you aren't diabetic or pre-diabetic) and give him a bottle of red wine instead! :)
Lol oh I so would love to but I've given chocolate up for lent lol could he have one a day?
 
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Mitch64

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Hi. If you do give him the chocolates, allow him only one a day! The amount of carbs in each chocolate won't be too high, but ideally avoid them. You could eat them yourself and buy him some bars of Green & Blacks 85% Dark Chocolate. The carb level is very low and this make is the smoothest of the 85% bunch.

Thank you so much, he doesn't like dark chocolate, :( all this is such a learning curve. Maybe one every two/three days but once the box has gone that's it no more.... Poor man he loves his thorntons.
 
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Not sure I'm writing replies back right? So please forgive me.
 

Mitch64

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@Mitch64

Hello Mitch and welcome to the forum :) The best way to help your husband is for him to follow a low carb diet. See the information below which we give to new members for more detail. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Daisy, thank you so much hubby wasn't even asked about his feet, although it sound like he had some sort of discussion regards becoming diabetic. I'm not sure what to expect as hubby isn't very communicative which is frustrating to me, as I don't want to set him up by feeding him the wrong food. So thank you, may bully my way into his GP appointment lol
 

Mitch64

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Hi and welcome,

I certainly wouldn't give him the box of chocs you bought him, not if you want to start as you mean to go on. Sweets, choccies, cakes, biscuits, anything sugary at all are to be avoided. Sugar is just one form of carbohydrate, and you will learn from reading this forum that the way to reduce sugar levels in the blood is to cut right down on all carbs. Apart from sugar, rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, cereals and anything made with flour are all likely to raise those blood sugar levels.

Do have a good read round, and read Daisie's post when she arrives, noting carefully the role of carbohydrates.

Your best present for him would be a blood glucose meter and test strips. Using these before a meal and a couple of hours later will show him just what his food does to his levels, and he can use this information to tweak his diet accordingly.

Good luck.

Hi, thank you so much for the information, this really has been helpful. So much to take in. I'm going to look for a course. :)
 
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Diabetes can cause lots of problems but you are in the right place to get good information that will help you to reduce his Blood Suger and eventually reverse it ,I used the low carb diet lost weight and reversed my diabetes in months with help of the forum members,buying a SDCodefree meter from amazon was one of the best thing I done. Abled me to take control of what I eat ,
 
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Mitch64

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Diabetes can cause lots of problems but you are in the right place to get good information that will help you to reduce his Blood Suger and eventually reverse it ,I used the low carb diet lost weight and reversed my diabetes in months with help of the forum members,buying a SDCodefree meter from amazon was one of the best thing I done. Abled me to take control of what I eat ,

Thank you, I will have a look at this, thanks for the amazing advise.