Insulin vs Sugar

sakshi00k15

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Hi

I am Kiran from India. I have a daughter who is 26 and we both have our independent problems which I would outline below

I have recovered from a severe attack of Pancreatitis post which my blood sugar both fasting and PP are running high upto 150 for fasting and Doctor has prescribed Glycomet 500 SR

Question is what is the experience of others in such cases and what is the general trend of treatment

Next on my daughter

She has been found to have a high Insulin - fasting 24.5 (vs max 25) and pp 200 (max 75) and has also been prescribed the same medicine - 1 tablet a day for 15 days and two a day after 15 days. Since this is a recent development this is the stage she is in.

She is fat around the waist and has a tendency to put on weight. Her fasting sugar and PP are within limits at 95 and 128 as of now.

She also has high Uric Acid and low Vitamin D3 as side by side issues.

Would seek opinion from others who could guide us on the high insulin resistance that she has developed. This is the first time we have had such a detailed analysis and had never had insulin tests before.

Thanking you

Kiran
 

andcol

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Well she needs to get her vit D levels up as there are a few papers that show that vit-D deficiency and diabetes have a relationship. So lots of sunshine for her. Also with high glucose levels your body goes into overload with the polyol pathway further using your vit D levels as well as eating fructose in all forms uses up vit D. So my suggestion would be to get her into the sunshine, no fruit (or extremely limited and cut out the starchy carbs like rice and see how that goes in a few months time
 
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Daibell

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Hi. Yes, your daughter from what you say appears to be a T2 with insulin resistance and she is pumping out insulin which the muscles can't use? To break the loop the first step is to seriously reduce the carbs but have enough proteins, fats, veg and non-tropical (=sugary) fruit to have a balanced diet. The Glycomet (Metformin) will help her. If she is seriously overweight there are injectables that can be prescribed to help if the right diet doesn't work out. I can't comment on the pancreatitis as only a medic can continue with the right tests to see if it recovers. I can only assume your insulin output has currently dropped and taking insulin may be relevant at some point?
 
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sakshi00k15

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Thank you for your guidance. She has been put on 2 x 500 mg Metformin which has brought her fasting Insulin down from 25 to 18 although the PP insulin remains around 200. She is gyming 4 - 6 times a week and is controlling her diet. Her weight has not shown any reduction however at about 78 kg. She has been put on febuxostat 40 for her high Uric Acid about a week back.
Her problems helm around
a) Insulin resistance and high Insulin levels
b) High Uric Acid
c) High Triglycerides
Vit D3 which was very low earlier has normalized over the past month and a half of supplements.
Please advise on the type and kind of diet she should have besides the controls and the exercise and physical activity required.
Thankyou.
 

NoCrbs4Me

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My barely self-educated guess is that a low carb/high fat diet is what she needs. You as well.

This means no rice, no bread, no pasta, no sugar, no fruit, no starchy veg (potatoes, etc.).

@daisy1 will be along with some basic info.

In the mean time, the following website has all the info you will likely need on type 2 diabetes:

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/ as well as http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

As for diet, check out:

http://www.dietdoctor.com/ and http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

This king of diet lowered my blood sugar, lowered my insulin resistance, and lowered my tryglycerides. Right now my triglyceride is 0.72 mmol/L. It has been as high as 2.1 mmol/L.

Exercise is good, but not nearly as important as diet. 30 minutes of walking a day is all you need, really. Maybe some weight lifting if you feel like it.


Good luck!
 

daisy1

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@sakshi00k15

Hello Kiran and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful to you both. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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