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Hi @krisbbie and welcome to the forum. A lot of people on here find that a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating has lowered our blood sugar and weight.
You need to avoid sweet sugary stuff, but also avoid or limit starchy carbohydrates like potatoes, bread, pasta and rice, as carbs turn to sugar in our bodies.
To replace the energy we get from carbs we increase protein and healthy fats like dairy, avocadoes, nuts and oily fish. Green veg is also good.
Exercise helps too, and should also help with lowering blood pressure. The easiest exercise is walking, starting with 30 minutes at least 5 times a week, if you are able, and increasing as you get fitter.

You have put in your signature that you are pre-diabetic. Do you know what your HbA1c (blood sugar) level is. You should be able to avoid becoming diabetic if you take action now.
 
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Hi @krisbbie and welcome to the forum. A lot of people on here find that a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating has lowered our blood sugar and weight.
You need to avoid sweet sugary stuff, but also avoid or limit starchy carbohydrates like potatoes, bread, pasta and rice, as carbs turn to sugar in our bodies.
To replace the energy we get from carbs we increase protein and healthy fats like dairy, avocadoes, nuts and oily fish. Green veg is also good.
Exercise helps too, and should also help with lowering blood pressure. The easiest exercise is walking, starting with 30 minutes at least 5 times a week, if you are able, and increasing as you get fitter.

You have put in your signature that you are pre-diabetic. Do you know what your HbA1c (blood sugar) level is. You should be able to avoid becoming diabetic if you take action now.
HbA1c is 42-47. Thanks for the prompt response. I'm determined to get organised.
 
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Lamont D

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I've tagged @daisy1 to give you the newcomers welcome information.
 

Bluetit1802

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HbA1c is 42-47. Thanks for the prompt response. I'm determined to get organised.

Hi,

The 42 - 47 you quote is the range for prediabetes. Do you know where you were within that range?
under 42 is non-diabetic
over 47 is diabetic.
 

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@krisbbie

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It will help you with your low carb diet choices and contains a link to the Low Carb Program. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

shaun86mysta

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@krisbbie

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It will help you with your low carb diet choices and contains a link to the Low Carb Program. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Hello I know type 2 can only get blood test strips for a little while after they have it under control the doctors stop giving them to you I only know this because my grandad was type 2 and had the same problem as I'm type 1 I give my grandad the blood stripes I will say that they don't education people very well with type 1 or 2 or the salt one to fair I've had diabetes for 23 years and I'm still waiting to go on a course to help education myself but that don't mind putting all these nurses and doctors on them but it's not controlling the same thing if they helped people by educating them then the world wouldn't be the way it is I think the NHS is a waste of time I don't have a specialist nurse or doctor because my diabetes is will controlled but it would be nice to actually be trained in it just so I know it's the right way but they just send me letters every year saying we still haven't got any space on our list and I have to keep putting my name down 2 which is really starting to get to me
 
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I don't have any other info. Thanks for your response.

If you contact the receptionist at the surgery they may tell you your actual score. You can ask for a print out of the results. It is a good idea to know what your score was so you know where you are starting from. Knowledge is power!
 

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Hi, Cant post actually topics for some reason . I to have recently been diagnosed with pre diabetes (42-47 mmolL) also have heart failure (irregular heartbeat) need to start loosing weight quickly but as people have said it's easier said then done
 

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Hi @phil180 and welcome to the forum. An LCHF approach to eating does usually help with weight loss as well as lowering blood sugars. Have a read around the threads and ask anything you want to.
 

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Hi @krisbbie and welcome to the forum. A lot of people on here find that a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating has lowered our blood sugar and weight.
You need to avoid sweet sugary stuff, but also avoid or limit starchy carbohydrates like potatoes, bread, pasta and rice, as carbs turn to sugar in our bodies.
To replace the energy we get from carbs we increase protein and healthy fats like dairy, avocadoes, nuts and oily fish. Green veg is also good.
Exercise helps too, and should also help with lowering blood pressure. The easiest exercise is walking, starting with 30 minutes at least 5 times a week, if you are able, and increasing as you get fitter.

You have put in your signature that you are pre-diabetic. Do you know what your HbA1c (blood sugar) level is. You should be able to avoid becoming diabetic if you take action now.
 

bensonsim49

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I just joined and hope to learn from the sharing. As of now I am a pre-diabetic and on diet. Seems to work with low carb diet and brisk walking. My latest HBA1, blood result of 4.3 L, is favorable [range: 4.6 - 6.4%]. The last Fasting Blood sugar of 6.4 was much better than 2 earlier results of 7.8 & 7.4 I also managed to bring my weight down from a high of 91 to today's 81, an average of about 2 kg reduction p mth. Anything else that I need to do or address to improve my condition?
 
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Hi @bensonsim49 and welcome to the forum. You have done well with low carbing and exercise. Nothing else I can suggest, perhaps others can. Just have a read of the threads and ask anything you want. The people on here are friendly and supportive.
 
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Rice and noodles would be better than pasta. Veg protein salmon and tinned mackerel, don't go hungry, eat little and often. I got off all sugary foods and drinks. Porridge for breakfast. Drink water lots. This is one of my teas.noodles cook in minutes. And make your own sauces as the shop one have loads of sugar in them, download sugar smart app and scan foods. Do not buy it if it's not in the house only healthy stuff you will eat healthy.i have two slices of bread a day, I don't like potatoes so have basmati or noodles for tea. Have two little bowls of porridge a day if hungry. Cereals are high in sugar most are, I add molasses to my porridge as it hasn't any iron iin it , I know it's sugar, but I don't have a weight or blood issue anymore.
 

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@_lyn_lyn_1963 Rice, noodles and pasta are all carbs and all turn to glucose/sugar in the body. The best thing to do is have a small portion and test afterwards to see how it affects your blood sugar.

Different people can tolerate different foods and different amounts of carbs. It's the total carbs that affect blood sugar, so even so-called healthy carbs like wholemeal bread, etc, can have an effect.
 
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