Type 2 control

bobweir45

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Hi,

Trying to get on the straight and narrow is there advice on simple meals/ plans to follow by blood count was high not sure what and need to get it down, I know I was taking to much wine and have dramatically stopped that and need to get weight generally down.

Is things like turmeric good but I have to be careful as I take wafarin for a irregular heart beat.

Any simple guide lines would be grateful.
BW
 
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NoCrbs4Me

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I reversed my Type 2
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Welcome to the forum. @daisy1 will provide some info soon.

For what to eat to get low blood glucose levels, check out:

www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

Also check this page out:

www.dietdoctor.com/diabetes

However, a rally simple explanation is: avoid carbs (bread, pasta, sugar, potatoes, rice, oats, fruit, etc.). Eat real food (meat, seafood, non-starchy veg, full-fat dairy, etc.) Avoid factory processed food. Don't be afraid of natural fat, but avoid veg/seed oils.

Get a blood glucose meter (glucometer) and test yourself - mostly to track your progress, since other than avoiding carbs and losing weight (if you need to), there's not a lot you can do to lower you blood glucose.

Also, check out this site:

www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

It has lots of good info on diabetes - much more than your health care professional can tell you.
 

daisy1

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Hello Bob and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Debbie2511

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I'm getting confused, I was diagnosed in May and advised to cut out sugar, cheese, crisps, sweets, fizzy drinks etc and eat pasta, noodles, potato, fish, chicken etc, I've lost a stone, yesterday I started the 6 week diabetes meeting, seem to be getting conflicting information
 

Energize

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Hi Debbie

Yes, it's no surprise that you're confused ;) unfortunately, what the NHS 'professionals' advise you isn't entirely the best advice. You are quite right in understanding that sugar, crisps, sweets should be cut out. Fizzy drinks, if sugary, are definitely out but, if 'diet' drinks, it would depend if the sweeteners affected your blood glucose levels.

Regarding pasta, noodles, potato, rice, bread, pastry, flour, cakes, many here, including myself, consider these foods to be high carbohydrate which will send your blood glucose levels well high, which you don't want. NHS professionals consider a high carb and low fat to be the best but, on here, as I said, many don't agree and get very good glucose control when avoiding carbs. It would seem GP surgery advice, in particular, is rather out-dated.

So, contary to what your GP/Diabetes nurse may have told you, it would be well worth you reading the post above, by daisy1, where it's explained extremely well why so many of us follow a low carb, higher/healthy fat diet with excellent results.

At the end of the day, it's up to you to decide what suits you. Again, in spite of what you have probably been told, Type 2s are much more in control if they test, so advice is to buy yourself a meter and test frequently to see what effect your meals have on your blood glucose. The SD Codefree is a good meter and the test strips are more reasonable re cost than others, which can be expensive.

Good luck
Julie
 

Robbity

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Hi - it can be very confusing because we're often given the wrong advice by our GPs and nurses. Besically: the carbohydrates in starchy and sugary food raise our glucose levels, so we need to cut down on, or avoid, them to help reduce this happening. It makes no sense to eat and drink things that our bodies can no longer handle very well and which cause us problems.

Robbity
 

SWUSA_

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Hi,

Trying to get on the straight and narrow is there advice on simple meals/ plans to follow by blood count was high not sure what and need to get it down, I know I was taking to much wine and have dramatically stopped that and need to get weight generally down.

Is things like turmeric good but I have to be careful as I take wafarin for a irregular heart beat.

Any simple guide lines would be grateful.
BW
Eggs are good! See thread with that title on the Forum.
 

cusally

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
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I can't be bothered with diet books etc, but I have found it really easy to follow a low carb diet - I just don't eat bread, pasta, rice at all ! Instead, I use extra large portions of veggies to fill myself up, cook same meat meals as before, so chicken curry still gets done, but while hubby has rice, I have a bed of veggies such as cabbage or fine green beans, a large portion. Breakfast is 1 egg on a bed of baby spinach, 1 tomato and a bit of home made oil and vinegar and a sprinkling of linseeds (whole). The extra veg are very filling and i have lots of energy. It has been a bit harder now the weather is cold so have slightly increased fats such as olive oil and cheese. I put all my intake into diet app on my fitbit, and most days i am at about 50g of carbs. Just occasionally, have a slice of bread. My GP kindly said an occasional alcoholic drink is ok, so I have a gin and low cal tonic every few days but nothing else. Still losing weight slowly and I am walking more
 
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