Newly diagnosed

mexthegooner

Newbie
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3
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hello all! Was diagnosed about 2 weeks ago finding it a lot to take in. The doctor is not sure yet weather I'm type 1 or 2 they are trying me on metformin and glickazide at moment and have just up my dose so I now take the metformin 1 3x a day and the glickazide 2x 2 times a day! To be honest it's not really knocking down my blood sugar. I'm also getting a little blurry in the old eyes is this normal!! Also it seems carbs take me up really high well a least bread does. Does anyone have a good suggestion on what to eat for breakfast as toast was my default. Any suggestions greatly received
 

daisy1

Legend
Messages
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
@mexthegooner

Hello Mex and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which includes advice on diet which should help you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

urbanracer

Expert
Retired Moderator
Messages
5,187
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Dislikes
Not being able to eat as many chocolate digestives as I used to.
Hello all! Was diagnosed about 2 weeks ago finding it a lot to take in. The doctor is not sure yet weather I'm type 1 or 2 they are trying me on metformin and glickazide at moment and have just up my dose so I now take the metformin 1 3x a day and the glickazide 2x 2 times a day! To be honest it's not really knocking down my blood sugar. I'm also getting a little blurry in the old eyes is this normal!! Also it seems carbs take me up really high well a least bread does. Does anyone have a good suggestion on what to eat for breakfast as toast was my default. Any suggestions greatly received

Hi @mexthegooner ,

Some folks cannot take bread or cereals without large BG spikes. So if you have time to cook in the mornings then try good old fashioned bacon and eggs (or just the eggs) as virtually carbohydrate free. Some people feel that brown wholemeal breads, pasta and rice are beneficial and turn to glucose less readily, thereby reducing the spike. It doesn't work for everyone though.

Eyes can be effected by high blood sugars and will normally recover once you bring things under control. It can take a while for blood sugars to settle down (around 12 weeks in my case) so don't expect miracles.

If you turn out to be a T1 then maybe the insulin will help you cope with the foods you want more easily but in the short term it may be advisable to reduce the carb intake.

How often, and when are you checking your bloods? What are your numbers?
 

Bluetit1802

Legend
Messages
25,216
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Enjoy your holiday!

Yes, bacon and eggs, eggs cooked any which way (I have a soft boiled egg and a decaf coffee with cream, which sees me through till lunch without being hungry), or a full fat yogurt with a couple of chopped up strawberries chucked in (or other berries). There are some low carb breads on the market. Lidl do high protein rolls that are very low carb and delicious toasted, also Bergen bread from supermarkets, and Livelife from Waitrose, but you would have to test them out for yourself (test before you eat and 2 hours later) to see what effect they have on you.
 

Daibell

Master
Messages
12,652
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Can you let us know your current BMI and whether you have lost weight unexpectedly recently. This can be a pointer to which type you might be. Yes, eggs and bacon for breakfast is a great idea.