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<blockquote data-quote="busydiabeticmum" data-source="post: 1520470" data-attributes="member: 160151"><p>Problem with that is that up until this year the nhs only accept hclf as the ONLY way to treat diabetes and have only just accepted that this isn't the right way to do it for ALL people until recently.</p><p>We also know that certain drugs were given to women and we're KNOWN to be safe until it was discovered that those medications caused terrible side effects in those babies, not just dwarfism but also certain medication given for depression which cause brain damage in the baby.</p><p>We also KNEW that formula was best for baby until we didn't...</p><p></p><p>I followed their advice and diet and ended up with a baby in neonatal care because of it... yes rds is real and does happen... Ketones were produced because I was following their diet and the insulin I HAD to take because of their diet wasn't enough.</p><p>I disagree because of experience that "erring" as you call it is a good idea... as that could cause even worse problems including having a severely disabled child depending on which parts of your baby's brain is starved of oxygen and how good the hospital is! It took almost a year for my son to get over this damage and we are more than lucky to have escaped him being left with disability...which according to doctors in the John Radcliffe hospital (which he had to be transferred to) say was miraculous.</p><p>Following that advice could put you into ketoacidosis which is dangerous rather than just having the normal level of Ketones!?!</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3884390" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3884390</a></p><p></p><p>This is from the same body who tested on mice and show there is a different effect of ketogenic diet on human mothers and babies which is beneficial... thus we need to question the validity of carrying on using an outdated test on mice while other test results show no adverse affect and actually in opposition to that.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/guest-blog-post-is-it-safe-to-go-low-carb-during-pregnancy" target="_blank">http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/guest-blog-post-is-it-safe-to-go-low-carb-during-pregnancy</a></p><p></p><p>You also have this site to look at... it also shows that medical professionals have and are changing their stance on low carb in pregnancy... I repeat ketoacidosis is bad but it is not the same as nutritional Ketones found in the urine and this one should explain it better.</p><p></p><p>I am convinced that lchf (healthy fat) is OK in pregnancy otherwise I would be back on the carbs...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="busydiabeticmum, post: 1520470, member: 160151"] Problem with that is that up until this year the nhs only accept hclf as the ONLY way to treat diabetes and have only just accepted that this isn't the right way to do it for ALL people until recently. We also know that certain drugs were given to women and we're KNOWN to be safe until it was discovered that those medications caused terrible side effects in those babies, not just dwarfism but also certain medication given for depression which cause brain damage in the baby. We also KNEW that formula was best for baby until we didn't... I followed their advice and diet and ended up with a baby in neonatal care because of it... yes rds is real and does happen... Ketones were produced because I was following their diet and the insulin I HAD to take because of their diet wasn't enough. I disagree because of experience that "erring" as you call it is a good idea... as that could cause even worse problems including having a severely disabled child depending on which parts of your baby's brain is starved of oxygen and how good the hospital is! It took almost a year for my son to get over this damage and we are more than lucky to have escaped him being left with disability...which according to doctors in the John Radcliffe hospital (which he had to be transferred to) say was miraculous. Following that advice could put you into ketoacidosis which is dangerous rather than just having the normal level of Ketones!?! [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3884390[/URL] This is from the same body who tested on mice and show there is a different effect of ketogenic diet on human mothers and babies which is beneficial... thus we need to question the validity of carrying on using an outdated test on mice while other test results show no adverse affect and actually in opposition to that. [URL]http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/guest-blog-post-is-it-safe-to-go-low-carb-during-pregnancy[/URL] You also have this site to look at... it also shows that medical professionals have and are changing their stance on low carb in pregnancy... I repeat ketoacidosis is bad but it is not the same as nutritional Ketones found in the urine and this one should explain it better. I am convinced that lchf (healthy fat) is OK in pregnancy otherwise I would be back on the carbs... [/QUOTE]
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