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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 1972678" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Yes, absolutely. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Although, for me, having had long-term IR off and on, with the eventual culmination in T2D at a high/dangerous level, now I say I no longer have metabolic syndrome (MetS), according to the various definitions - but I actually have one of the nasty diseases that MetS is actually a set of risk factors FOR. Yeah - diabetes! </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">But yes, for me not having MetS any longer is about having a lowered risk for the other nasties that can get you into a grave earlier than you would deem appropriate for your age. And yes, all with producing too much insulin for good health at the base of it. And of course - cardiovascular disease is a really big nasty, and the nasty that is actually what kills about a half of those with diabetes off earlier than we would like. (According to some stats I have seen in my own country - 50% of those with diabetes dying too early, from CVD.) For me this is watching my tendency to belly fat like a hawk (or like a bird watching a cat?), and making sure I am physically fit and relatively strong etc etc. Watching your blood pressure etc etc. I bought my own BP monitor, for instance.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Recently I had two dear friends stay with me, both who have/had prediabetes. Both of these two, a couple, had a parent who had T2D, one died from CVD. Both are ignoring my words on carbohydrate intolerance, and told me (nicely!) they do not believe 'my' theory on carbs. My womanfriend even read out to me the official lines off the internet when we got into a big convo about it. I was somewhat disturbed, made me realise how really dangerous those official lines are, but I was relieved she finally told me what she really thought, because I won't wonder any longer why they still eating lots of sugar and high carbs. (I had been wondering!) But, imagine my surprise to see both of them getting out their heart and blood pressure tablets (statins and beta blockers I guess?). This combined with my womanfriend's obvious lack of physical fitness. I won't talk about bellies. I said to Herr Svea later, "But don't they realise that it is CVD that can kill? If they have prediabetic levels and already they are on heart and blood pressure pills - well - the high insulin and the glucose is already getting to them!" Well, I have told them, but along with 'my' theory about carbs, I guess they thought the CVD alert was a little light entertainment I made up? (I actually prefer to watch Netflix for entertainment but there you are!)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">So, the short answer to the OP's question is - about health factors making you cop it too early - it's about what illness, and health factors, you have already! Or, all together. With the same or different causes - to how healthy or at risk of too early death you are. And the beauty of it - with metabolic disease - one's health can be greatly improved with changes in food, and physical fitness etc. (It terms of being 'cured' [USER=497465]@cured[/USER] - you did not have an infection that you were cured of, end of story. Metabolism can constantly change.)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">The person who can best discuss your particular possible too early mortality issues with you is of course, your trusty GP, assuming you have a trusty one. Or, learn to interpret your own blood test and other medical test results, or, best imho - do both.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 1972678, member: 150927"] [FONT=Arial]Yes, absolutely. Although, for me, having had long-term IR off and on, with the eventual culmination in T2D at a high/dangerous level, now I say I no longer have metabolic syndrome (MetS), according to the various definitions - but I actually have one of the nasty diseases that MetS is actually a set of risk factors FOR. Yeah - diabetes! But yes, for me not having MetS any longer is about having a lowered risk for the other nasties that can get you into a grave earlier than you would deem appropriate for your age. And yes, all with producing too much insulin for good health at the base of it. And of course - cardiovascular disease is a really big nasty, and the nasty that is actually what kills about a half of those with diabetes off earlier than we would like. (According to some stats I have seen in my own country - 50% of those with diabetes dying too early, from CVD.) For me this is watching my tendency to belly fat like a hawk (or like a bird watching a cat?), and making sure I am physically fit and relatively strong etc etc. Watching your blood pressure etc etc. I bought my own BP monitor, for instance. Recently I had two dear friends stay with me, both who have/had prediabetes. Both of these two, a couple, had a parent who had T2D, one died from CVD. Both are ignoring my words on carbohydrate intolerance, and told me (nicely!) they do not believe 'my' theory on carbs. My womanfriend even read out to me the official lines off the internet when we got into a big convo about it. I was somewhat disturbed, made me realise how really dangerous those official lines are, but I was relieved she finally told me what she really thought, because I won't wonder any longer why they still eating lots of sugar and high carbs. (I had been wondering!) But, imagine my surprise to see both of them getting out their heart and blood pressure tablets (statins and beta blockers I guess?). This combined with my womanfriend's obvious lack of physical fitness. I won't talk about bellies. I said to Herr Svea later, "But don't they realise that it is CVD that can kill? If they have prediabetic levels and already they are on heart and blood pressure pills - well - the high insulin and the glucose is already getting to them!" Well, I have told them, but along with 'my' theory about carbs, I guess they thought the CVD alert was a little light entertainment I made up? (I actually prefer to watch Netflix for entertainment but there you are!) So, the short answer to the OP's question is - about health factors making you cop it too early - it's about what illness, and health factors, you have already! Or, all together. With the same or different causes - to how healthy or at risk of too early death you are. And the beauty of it - with metabolic disease - one's health can be greatly improved with changes in food, and physical fitness etc. (It terms of being 'cured' [USER=497465]@cured[/USER] - you did not have an infection that you were cured of, end of story. Metabolism can constantly change.) The person who can best discuss your particular possible too early mortality issues with you is of course, your trusty GP, assuming you have a trusty one. Or, learn to interpret your own blood test and other medical test results, or, best imho - do both. [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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