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<blockquote data-quote="phoenix" data-source="post: 272013" data-attributes="member: 12578"><p>Xyzzy,</p><p> I wasn't actually referring to your post above mine, when I made my last remark. We crossed posts.</p><p></p><p>I heartily agree with using a meter... although I think that the tool has to be used with a bit of caution; i know only too well that identical meals can have very different results on different days (because all the other variables including emotions come into play) </p><p></p><p> My point is that the Swedish authorities do not recommend one particular type of diet.They recommend individual dietary advice, (and the guidelines are aimed at professionals as are those in the US) starting from where the person is and adapting that. They then suggest 4 diets and a variety of individual foods all of which have some evidence to show that they are beneficial in some way. </p><p> I have great reservations to the suggestion that in the US the advice you receive would be vastly different to in the UK </p><p>( Here is the text on a slide taken from a lecture given last year at a Diabetes Symposium by the lead author of the ADA guidelines (M Franz))</p><p><a href="http://www.mcw.edu/FileLibrary/User/bcozza/FranzMay20th.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.mcw.edu/FileLibrary/User/bco ... ay20th.pdf</a></p><p> she does indeed focus on counting carbs:</p><p> (<strong>and please can I emphasise that I'm not saying that I agree with her, just reiterating what she says</strong>)</p><p>carbohydrate recommendations </p><p>Start with 3-4 servings per meal for women, 4-5 servings per meal for men, 1-2 for a snack'</p><p>emphasise day to day consistency</p><p>test post meal glucose < 160-180mg/dl</p><p>The slide before says that</p><p>(carbs are from desserts, milk, fruit and starches , veggies are free foods, 1 serving carbs=15gcarb)</p><p>the following slide says</p><p>Locate total grams of fat (refers to a food label)</p><p>– 3 or less g of total fat for every </p><p>15 g of carbohydrate</p><p>– 3 or less g of total fat per 7-8 g </p><p>of protein</p><p>– 1/3 or less of total fat g from </p><p>saturated fat</p><p> For a man this amounts to more than 200g of carb and with the fat restrictions really doesn't sound that different to what might be suggested in the UK The Diabetes UK guidelines actually reference the most recent ADA ones and were updated last year)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phoenix, post: 272013, member: 12578"] Xyzzy, I wasn't actually referring to your post above mine, when I made my last remark. We crossed posts. I heartily agree with using a meter... although I think that the tool has to be used with a bit of caution; i know only too well that identical meals can have very different results on different days (because all the other variables including emotions come into play) My point is that the Swedish authorities do not recommend one particular type of diet.They recommend individual dietary advice, (and the guidelines are aimed at professionals as are those in the US) starting from where the person is and adapting that. They then suggest 4 diets and a variety of individual foods all of which have some evidence to show that they are beneficial in some way. I have great reservations to the suggestion that in the US the advice you receive would be vastly different to in the UK ( Here is the text on a slide taken from a lecture given last year at a Diabetes Symposium by the lead author of the ADA guidelines (M Franz)) [url=http://www.mcw.edu/FileLibrary/User/bcozza/FranzMay20th.pdf]http://www.mcw.edu/FileLibrary/User/bco ... ay20th.pdf[/url] she does indeed focus on counting carbs: ([b]and please can I emphasise that I'm not saying that I agree with her, just reiterating what she says[/b]) carbohydrate recommendations Start with 3-4 servings per meal for women, 4-5 servings per meal for men, 1-2 for a snack' emphasise day to day consistency test post meal glucose < 160-180mg/dl The slide before says that (carbs are from desserts, milk, fruit and starches , veggies are free foods, 1 serving carbs=15gcarb) the following slide says Locate total grams of fat (refers to a food label) – 3 or less g of total fat for every 15 g of carbohydrate – 3 or less g of total fat per 7-8 g of protein – 1/3 or less of total fat g from saturated fat For a man this amounts to more than 200g of carb and with the fat restrictions really doesn't sound that different to what might be suggested in the UK The Diabetes UK guidelines actually reference the most recent ADA ones and were updated last year) [/QUOTE]
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