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<blockquote data-quote="Finsky" data-source="post: 1127635" data-attributes="member: 269388"><p>The frustration is that all the research info for the diet many of us are following, is out there if health professionals could/or would want to promote it. Thing is...we all know that for many, being doctor or nurse is just a job... once out of door, they don't have interest/energy or will left to 'study' different areas any further. You just tell for your patients what you are told to tell and job done! Many 'pro's ' who have true interest to diabetes and follow the latest research often don't really deal day to day patients..many of them are more of academics. It takes to have either very personal reason to start digging info out or have 'nerdy' interest for this subject. I can't see ordinary doctors and even 'diabetic ones' having that much time in their hands.</p><p>And then there is that 'follow the money' controversy..somebody always 'have to benefit'...if it is good or bad advice/treatment. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> There is no money to be made..nor much with the healhy food and definitely not when not able to promote excess medication 'sales'.</p><p></p><p>How are we going to change the situation?....very slowly I'm afraid..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />...one diabetic at the time. After yesterday's appointment to see DN...she took great interest how I changed things around with my diabetes...she had a look at my books, list of web sites..yes, I dragged anything and everything with me..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />..and she did wrote some key words down so she can follow them up herself....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> She had never even heard LCHF diet...or banting....and admitted not really knowing much about ketone diet neither...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Until now....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> She did mention about Atkins..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p>Maybe she is not allowed to recommend this type of diet for her patients...I don't know...but I hope she will advise/direct some of her patients to visit this forum...we had good chat about us and what we get up to too..<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite13" alt=":angelic:" title="Angelic :angelic:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":angelic:" /></p><p>Maybe it is just case of making lots of individual noises around to get 'rumours' going around....I have already talked about things for few diabetic friends and neighbours..trying to do my bit. But it almost always comes down to...'but my nurse/doctor/dietician says...'<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p>Funny enough..I seem to have more success promoting LCHF type of eating to non-diabetics! Some very active friends have taken it into their lives with really good results. And I have managed to convert couple 'life time' slimmingworld ladies to try it too!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Finsky, post: 1127635, member: 269388"] The frustration is that all the research info for the diet many of us are following, is out there if health professionals could/or would want to promote it. Thing is...we all know that for many, being doctor or nurse is just a job... once out of door, they don't have interest/energy or will left to 'study' different areas any further. You just tell for your patients what you are told to tell and job done! Many 'pro's ' who have true interest to diabetes and follow the latest research often don't really deal day to day patients..many of them are more of academics. It takes to have either very personal reason to start digging info out or have 'nerdy' interest for this subject. I can't see ordinary doctors and even 'diabetic ones' having that much time in their hands. And then there is that 'follow the money' controversy..somebody always 'have to benefit'...if it is good or bad advice/treatment. :rolleyes: There is no money to be made..nor much with the healhy food and definitely not when not able to promote excess medication 'sales'. How are we going to change the situation?....very slowly I'm afraid..:(...one diabetic at the time. After yesterday's appointment to see DN...she took great interest how I changed things around with my diabetes...she had a look at my books, list of web sites..yes, I dragged anything and everything with me..:D..and she did wrote some key words down so she can follow them up herself....;) She had never even heard LCHF diet...or banting....and admitted not really knowing much about ketone diet neither...:rolleyes: Until now....:D She did mention about Atkins..:rolleyes: Maybe she is not allowed to recommend this type of diet for her patients...I don't know...but I hope she will advise/direct some of her patients to visit this forum...we had good chat about us and what we get up to too..;):angelic: Maybe it is just case of making lots of individual noises around to get 'rumours' going around....I have already talked about things for few diabetic friends and neighbours..trying to do my bit. But it almost always comes down to...'but my nurse/doctor/dietician says...':rolleyes: Funny enough..I seem to have more success promoting LCHF type of eating to non-diabetics! Some very active friends have taken it into their lives with really good results. And I have managed to convert couple 'life time' slimmingworld ladies to try it too!;) [/QUOTE]
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