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<blockquote data-quote="markd" data-source="post: 221772" data-attributes="member: 13859"><p>Thank you for your informed and rational response to my supplying information that I feel to be useful. From the tenor of your reply, I think "Bonkers" is a reasonable term to apply to your response. </p><p></p><p>I see no reason to be ashamed of posting a link to one of the well-respected diabetes information sites on the net. On the contrary, I feel *you* do members a disservice by effectively encouraging any individual to be satisfied with anything less than the best they can achieve.</p><p></p><p>I've not just cherry-picked info from BS101; there are plenty of papers showing how a lot of risks to health increase in line with a1c (I have a feeeling thet Bernstein goes as low as 4.3 for 'normal' which does seem pretty extreme).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well Sid, the only rubbish I see in this thread is from your two posts! What would you prefer, a cozy, complacent little social gathering devoid of any real encouragement to tackle diabetes head on, all driven by what Sid thinks isn't rubbish??</p><p></p><p>I've just looked back at what I wrote and it isn't scaremongering at all (and I apologise to anyone except Sid if it came out that way at all); I certainly take Caleb's and Grazer's points about risk, and that a total increase of a couple of % isn't that much.</p><p></p><p>It is all about risk and our attitude to it; one problem is that all of these small risks (a1c a little high, a bit too much around the middle, not enough exercise, a bit too much booze, only a few fags per week...) all tend to aggregate into a bigger value, so suddenly the 'only a couple of percents' add up to a 10, 20 or even 30% increased risk of mortality. Some combinations increase risk far faster than simple addition would indicate.</p><p></p><p>I'm happy for you to hold your Bonkers views, and if a forum majority feels that the Word of Sid is law, then I'll stop posting. BTW, Sid, maybe you should think about removing the 'H' from the IMHO you mention - inferring one of the better known diabetes authorities on the net to be 'rubbish' and 'garbage' isn't really humble... foolish (or something stronger) might be appropriate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="markd, post: 221772, member: 13859"] Thank you for your informed and rational response to my supplying information that I feel to be useful. From the tenor of your reply, I think "Bonkers" is a reasonable term to apply to your response. I see no reason to be ashamed of posting a link to one of the well-respected diabetes information sites on the net. On the contrary, I feel *you* do members a disservice by effectively encouraging any individual to be satisfied with anything less than the best they can achieve. I've not just cherry-picked info from BS101; there are plenty of papers showing how a lot of risks to health increase in line with a1c (I have a feeeling thet Bernstein goes as low as 4.3 for 'normal' which does seem pretty extreme). Well Sid, the only rubbish I see in this thread is from your two posts! What would you prefer, a cozy, complacent little social gathering devoid of any real encouragement to tackle diabetes head on, all driven by what Sid thinks isn't rubbish?? I've just looked back at what I wrote and it isn't scaremongering at all (and I apologise to anyone except Sid if it came out that way at all); I certainly take Caleb's and Grazer's points about risk, and that a total increase of a couple of % isn't that much. It is all about risk and our attitude to it; one problem is that all of these small risks (a1c a little high, a bit too much around the middle, not enough exercise, a bit too much booze, only a few fags per week...) all tend to aggregate into a bigger value, so suddenly the 'only a couple of percents' add up to a 10, 20 or even 30% increased risk of mortality. Some combinations increase risk far faster than simple addition would indicate. I'm happy for you to hold your Bonkers views, and if a forum majority feels that the Word of Sid is law, then I'll stop posting. BTW, Sid, maybe you should think about removing the 'H' from the IMHO you mention - inferring one of the better known diabetes authorities on the net to be 'rubbish' and 'garbage' isn't really humble... foolish (or something stronger) might be appropriate. [/QUOTE]
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