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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 1689294" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">It must be that whole-food availability and cost differs a lot or hugely around our globe. I have found that my whole-food budget is virtually the same as my pre-diagnosis highly processed food budget (with exceptions mentioned below.)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">And I can see why my partner and I loved eating in Portugal so much, as we are huge fans, if they have such a low percent of processed food on their tables. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I have eaten LCHF mainly in two countries, one in Europe - Sweden, and here in my home country of NZ. In both countries, even though they differ hugely in terms of climate and proximity to a pole, both have ready affordable access to good poultry, animal and fish produce. Especially here in NZ, as you can imagine. So perhaps I have been blessed in this way, to be able to get such good affordable produce. (But no - it ain't cheap for sure.) And, as middleaged folk, we are not eating as much as we would have done in our youth (I find that I only need 1,600, 1,800 calories max to be satiated.) (And we both practice IFing to various degrees.)</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I do believe processed food is also winning, hugely, because of the convenience factor (as well as the low cost of substandard processed food) and work days can be very long. Growing your own food is a part-time job in itself of course, and needs skill and ability to do it, let alone the land and resources. And all that takes money and time too. Knowing how to cook, using herbs and spices (instead of factory produced flavourings) - the same. Our modern complex societies are not set up for easy affordable whole-foods production.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">When my food budget now gets out of hand is when we are buying processed food as well, to cater to non LCHF family members and for special occasions (such as Xmas, birthdays and so on). This is why we ask folk who come and stay with us to bring their own processed food if they wish to have it, and we feed them our own LCHF food which they can supplement as they wish. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">There was one time that we gasped at the cost of our food bill, was when we were feeding entirely a 21 year old young man, our nephew. He loved eating at our table for two weeks, three meals a day, and was an LCHF knowlegable young man (as Swedes generally are), and he gained obviously in health and vigour by eating all those whole-foods, and would have been eating absolutely over 2,000 calories a day, for sure, but it did cost us a small fortune and as we are on a budget which is not flexible, and we were shocked. So we hear you [USER=196960]@ickihun[/USER], if you are feeding young adults, who are the biggest eaters of all.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 1689294, member: 150927"] [FONT=Arial]It must be that whole-food availability and cost differs a lot or hugely around our globe. I have found that my whole-food budget is virtually the same as my pre-diagnosis highly processed food budget (with exceptions mentioned below.) And I can see why my partner and I loved eating in Portugal so much, as we are huge fans, if they have such a low percent of processed food on their tables. I have eaten LCHF mainly in two countries, one in Europe - Sweden, and here in my home country of NZ. In both countries, even though they differ hugely in terms of climate and proximity to a pole, both have ready affordable access to good poultry, animal and fish produce. Especially here in NZ, as you can imagine. So perhaps I have been blessed in this way, to be able to get such good affordable produce. (But no - it ain't cheap for sure.) And, as middleaged folk, we are not eating as much as we would have done in our youth (I find that I only need 1,600, 1,800 calories max to be satiated.) (And we both practice IFing to various degrees.)[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I do believe processed food is also winning, hugely, because of the convenience factor (as well as the low cost of substandard processed food) and work days can be very long. Growing your own food is a part-time job in itself of course, and needs skill and ability to do it, let alone the land and resources. And all that takes money and time too. Knowing how to cook, using herbs and spices (instead of factory produced flavourings) - the same. Our modern complex societies are not set up for easy affordable whole-foods production. When my food budget now gets out of hand is when we are buying processed food as well, to cater to non LCHF family members and for special occasions (such as Xmas, birthdays and so on). This is why we ask folk who come and stay with us to bring their own processed food if they wish to have it, and we feed them our own LCHF food which they can supplement as they wish. There was one time that we gasped at the cost of our food bill, was when we were feeding entirely a 21 year old young man, our nephew. He loved eating at our table for two weeks, three meals a day, and was an LCHF knowlegable young man (as Swedes generally are), and he gained obviously in health and vigour by eating all those whole-foods, and would have been eating absolutely over 2,000 calories a day, for sure, but it did cost us a small fortune and as we are on a budget which is not flexible, and we were shocked. So we hear you [USER=196960]@ickihun[/USER], if you are feeding young adults, who are the biggest eaters of all.[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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