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<blockquote data-quote="EPhantom" data-source="post: 623827" data-attributes="member: 125617"><p>Found something... it doesn't say much but it mentions 1hour post meal BG as</p><p></p><p>"In people without diabetes, peak PPG occurs about 1 hour after a meal and generally does not exceed 140 mg/dl. PPG values can change as a result of a multitude of variables, such as activity, insulin sensitivity, gastric emptying rate, and meal composition. For example, carbohydrates contribute significantly more to PPG than do fats or protein. Hence, there is an accepted practice of counting the grams of carbohydrate to be consumed, and administrating supplemental insulin before the meal to cover the expected carbohydrate load."</p><p></p><p>The... I think it's more of just a scientific paper... was more about 2 hour post, but at least it gives a little insite... so generally doesn't go over 140... but can in non-diabetics. Will have to find more studies /papers to support it.</p><p></p><p>Stopped typing and went looking some more... found a forum talking about it too. Someone spoke with a research coordinator at one of the big hospitals here... They were apparently using continuous monitors on non diabetics and would sometimes see 300 measurements. Apparently it's dependent on the person and the meal... so me, a scrawny 115 pound male can't really handle 50g+ carbs well because I don't have enough cells to absorb the carbs quickly. So it WILL spike my BS no matter what. the only way I'm going to be able to help myself is to get more muscle mass and try to make my existing cells less resistant. Will have to scrounge around to find out if they made any papers or anything for it... Till then I can only see it as a glimer of hope in the distance... like a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow... is it a pot of gold, or just a shiny rock...</p><p></p><p>But the idea does help support why doctors don't seem to want a 1hour reading and shoot for the 2 hour.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/topic/39837-talk-to-me-about-normal-post-prandial-numbers/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/topic/39837-talk-to-me-about-normal-post-prandial-numbers/</a></p><p></p><p>I've been to that site... sadly I do not trust it one bit. MANY people from diabetic forums here quote from that site like it's the bible... but it's all from someone who has no medical practice what-so-ever, who is also attempting to sell a book. This kind of action makes me completely unable to trust a word she says, I see it as just another way to get a dollar.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I think the problem is that "Meal" is too generally defined... if it were defined by say,"grams of carbs/muscle mass or weight" = Certain Number ... then we would be able to easily say people shouldn't spike over a certain level... but I've never heard of such a thing.</p><p></p><p>So spikes after eating more carbs than a "meal" should be expected...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EPhantom, post: 623827, member: 125617"] Found something... it doesn't say much but it mentions 1hour post meal BG as "In people without diabetes, peak PPG occurs about 1 hour after a meal and generally does not exceed 140 mg/dl. PPG values can change as a result of a multitude of variables, such as activity, insulin sensitivity, gastric emptying rate, and meal composition. For example, carbohydrates contribute significantly more to PPG than do fats or protein. Hence, there is an accepted practice of counting the grams of carbohydrate to be consumed, and administrating supplemental insulin before the meal to cover the expected carbohydrate load." The... I think it's more of just a scientific paper... was more about 2 hour post, but at least it gives a little insite... so generally doesn't go over 140... but can in non-diabetics. Will have to find more studies /papers to support it. Stopped typing and went looking some more... found a forum talking about it too. Someone spoke with a research coordinator at one of the big hospitals here... They were apparently using continuous monitors on non diabetics and would sometimes see 300 measurements. Apparently it's dependent on the person and the meal... so me, a scrawny 115 pound male can't really handle 50g+ carbs well because I don't have enough cells to absorb the carbs quickly. So it WILL spike my BS no matter what. the only way I'm going to be able to help myself is to get more muscle mass and try to make my existing cells less resistant. Will have to scrounge around to find out if they made any papers or anything for it... Till then I can only see it as a glimer of hope in the distance... like a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow... is it a pot of gold, or just a shiny rock... But the idea does help support why doctors don't seem to want a 1hour reading and shoot for the 2 hour. [url]http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/topic/39837-talk-to-me-about-normal-post-prandial-numbers/[/url] I've been to that site... sadly I do not trust it one bit. MANY people from diabetic forums here quote from that site like it's the bible... but it's all from someone who has no medical practice what-so-ever, who is also attempting to sell a book. This kind of action makes me completely unable to trust a word she says, I see it as just another way to get a dollar. Edit: I think the problem is that "Meal" is too generally defined... if it were defined by say,"grams of carbs/muscle mass or weight" = Certain Number ... then we would be able to easily say people shouldn't spike over a certain level... but I've never heard of such a thing. So spikes after eating more carbs than a "meal" should be expected... [/QUOTE]
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