Newly diagnosed pre diabetes

Vixsie

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
I'm a 55 year old female, just diagnosed as having pre diabetes, HbA1c of 43 and a raised cholesterol of 6.1mmol, hdl/ldl ratio 3.8

This took me by surprise even though T2 is in the family, I'm 5ft 2 and 8 stone, until a few years ago I was a long distance runner and always considered my diet to be pretty good, although in retrospect I did eat white rice, noodles, white bread, crisps most days and in the build up to Christmas a lot of chocolate, oops. I only have 4 units of alcohol a week and red meat once a week, have always eaten a very low fat diet. I don't smoke and walk a minimum of 3 miles a day.

I have a close friend who is a diabetes specialist nurse who told me chances are I would have T2 already but for my lifestyle, so pretty sobering.

Last year was a very stressful one, due to my Father's ill health and other stresses and my weight dropped to 7 st 7lbs as I wasn't eating so much, by the late Summer my appetite picked up, I put a few pounds back on but started to notice I felt a lot less energetic than usual and lacked stamina, which I put down to my busy and hectic life with work (I'm a Nurse) looking after my Father, not sleeping so well etc.,

By November I started to feel hungry every couple of hours and got in the habit of snacking on little treats, crackers, cheese, the odd chocolate bar but felt more sluggish and more hungry. One day over Christmas I ate a high carb lunch followed by chocolates and a cup of tea and went out for a long walk, at one point feeling sweaty, hot and weak and having to go to the shop to buy something to eat to over come this, at this point I realised something was amiss.

My Maternal Grandfather and his Mother both had T2 and my Maternal Aunt, as does her Daughter. My Mother sadly developed pancreatic cancer at the age of 59 and my fear had always been that rather than Diabetes.

In the week since I found out I've stopped all high GI carbs, swapped to a minimal amount of wholemeal bread, brown rice, fish, chicken, cottage cheese, natural yoghurt, nuts and seeds, pulses and porridge or an omelette for breakfast and am eating a pear or small apple each day and 5 to 6 portions of veg. The difference already is noticeable, more energy and no hunger even though I'm eating way less food.

I'm trying to keep my carbs to the 120 a day mark or less and up my protein intake as my friend suggested but on reading that way less carbs is the way to go am concerned that this is to much. How do I decrease my carbs and keep myself satisfied whilst taking my cholesterol level into the equation?

Is it ok to have the odd few chocolates now and again and when should I incorporate them? Is having the odd G&T with zero calories tonic ok too. I feel I've become quite obsessional about watching everything I eat now and don't want to end up feeling hard done by but equally want to get back to a normal HbA1c.

Apologies for the twenty questions!
 

Antje77

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Type of diabetes
LADA
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Insulin
How do I decrease my carbs and keep myself satisfied whilst taking my cholesterol level into the equation?
I'm only N=1, but all my lipids changed from being too high/out of normal range when changing from a 'regular' diet to a low carb high fat one after my diabetes diagnosis.
I don't skimp on saturated fats either.
I have no idea if the improvement is caused by normalising blood glucose or by ditching most of the carbs (or even another cause), but the fats are definitely not doing my cholesterol any harm.

I eat to satiety (and often a little more), but I choose things my diabetes can handle.

Is it ok to have the odd few chocolates now and again and when should I incorporate them?
Do you like the high % cocoa chocolate?
It's likely fine! :)
Is having the odd G&T with zero calories tonic ok too.
No carbs so won't hurt your prediabetes. No different from a harm point of view than for non diabetics as far as I know.

What about getting a meter and use it to test before and after meals? That way you don't have to guess what works for you but you can simply find out.

If you reduce the carbs in your diet you'll need to increase other macro's, fats or protein, or you'll be inadvertently on a starvation diet.
I've stopped all high GI carbs, swapped to a minimal amount of wholemeal bread, brown rice, fish, chicken, cottage cheese, natural yoghurt, nuts and seeds, pulses and porridge or an omelette for breakfast and am eating a pear or small apple each day
Be careful with the so called 'low GI' carbs. Apples, pears, brown rice and porridge raise me just as certain as cake and donuts. Cheese, bacon and eggs, 85% chocolate and full fat Greek yoghurt do not. And they seem to keep my cholesterol much happier as well.
 

SlimLizzy

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Prediabetes
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Hi vixsie,
Your story sounds very similar to mine.
You have cut carbs and increased protein which is good. I make my own cauliflour ricewhich i find acceptable, some people hate it. Try swapping the low fat yoghurt for full fat Greek yoghurt and adding a few berries. Frozen are fine and easier to portion without waste. Makes a nice dessert, snack or breakfast. Porridge is not suitable for me. Might be for you as we are all different in our response to certain carbs.
Acohol is up to you, I have a glass of wine most days.
For chocolate look at cocoa and sugar content. Compromise. It's neccessary to find one you will enjoy. And to be able to resist scoffing the whole bar. No point in buying 100% cocoa sugar free if you dislike it.
I bought the Cals and Carbs book( there is an app) and in the end a blood glucose meter because although they eventually booked me onto a Preventing Diabetes course ( free) I was struggling on my own for months.
Above all remember it's prediabetes and only just into that, so try not to stress too much about it. With a few tweaks to your diet you should be fine.
 
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Vixsie

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Type of diabetes
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I'm only N=1, but all my lipids changed from being too high/out of normal range when changing from a 'regular' diet to a low carb high fat one after my diabetes diagnosis.
I don't skimp on saturated fats either.
I have no idea if the improvement is caused by normalising blood glucose or by ditching most of the carbs (or even another cause), but the fats are definitely not doing my cholesterol any harm.

I eat to satiety (and often a little more), but I choose things my diabetes can handle.


Do you like the high % cocoa chocolate?
It's likely fine! :)

No carbs so won't hurt your prediabetes. No different from a harm point of view than for non diabetics as far as I know.

What about getting a meter and use it to test before and after meals? That way you don't have to guess what works for you but you can simply find out.

If you reduce the carbs in your diet you'll need to increase other macro's, fats or protein, or you'll be inadvertently on a starvation diet.

Be careful with the so called 'low GI' carbs. Apples, pears, brown rice and porridge raise me just as certain as cake and donuts. Cheese, bacon and eggs, 85% chocolate and full fat Greek yoghurt do not. And they seem to keep my cholesterol much happier as well.
Thanks for the tips, I've spent today making my meals less carb based and focusing on the protein, dairy, nuts etc., and lots of veggies. Great to know I can still have the odd G and T. I've given most of my Xmas chocolate away now but have a bar of dark chilli chocolate and fruit and nut (that's not healthy I know) but I figured the odd square or two every so often will stop me feeling so fed up with the whole situation and stop me fading away!
 
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Vixsie

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Hi vixsie,
Your story sounds very similar to mine.
You have cut carbs and increased protein which is good. I make my own cauliflour ricewhich i find acceptable, some people hate it. Try swapping the low fat yoghurt for full fat Greek yoghurt and adding a few berries. Frozen are fine and easier to portion without waste. Makes a nice dessert, snack or breakfast. Porridge is not suitable for me. Might be for you as we are all different in our response to certain carbs.
Acohol is up to you, I have a glass of wine most days.
For chocolate look at cocoa and sugar content. Compromise. It's neccessary to find one you will enjoy. And to be able to resist scoffing the whole bar. No point in buying 100% cocoa sugar free if you dislike it.
I bought the Cals and Carbs book( there is an app) and in the end a blood glucose meter because although they eventually booked me onto a Preventing Diabetes course ( free) I was struggling on my own for months.
Above all remember it's prediabetes and only just into that, so try not to stress too much about it. With a few tweaks to your diet you should be fine.
Thanks for the advice, I've got myself a bag of frozen berries today and have written a weeks plan of meals, varying from omelette to berries and yoghurt for breakfast, avocado and cottage cheese etc., and only having porridge every 3 or 4 days.
I have a few bars of chocolate from Christmas that I haven't given away, 2 are dark chilli the other is cadburys fruit and nut, which I love and I'm not giving that to anybody, lol. I'll just have the odd square or two once a week as a treat and once they're gone I won't be going near it again as I can live without it.
I've realised how carb top heavy my meals actually were, all rice, noodles and couscous and not enough portions of veg and nowhere near enough dairy. For tea today I had homemade cajun chicken with a big pile of broccoli, kale, and a tablespoon of brown rice with chargrilled peppers and was full up, previously I'd have had a cupful of white rice with it and no veg and been hungry again an hour or two later.
I must admit I have been stressing about it more so with my Mum having had pancreatic cancer and my fear knowing that people with Diabetes are at higher risk so I'll do anything to prevent things progressing.
I don't want to start using a glucose meter at this point in time and making myself more paranoid, though I understand it would show what my body reacts to, think I'll see where I'm at when I get a HbA1c check in the future.
 
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SlimLizzy

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Thanks for the advice, I've got myself a bag of frozen berries today and have written a weeks plan of meals, varying from omelette to berries and yoghurt for breakfast, avocado and cottage cheese etc., and only having porridge every 3 or 4 days.
I have a few bars of chocolate from Christmas that I haven't given away, 2 are dark chilli the other is cadburys fruit and nut, which I love and I'm not giving that to anybody, lol. I'll just have the odd square or two once a week as a treat and once they're gone I won't be going near it again as I can live without it.
I've realised how carb top heavy my meals actually were, all rice, noodles and couscous and not enough portions of veg and nowhere near enough dairy. For tea today I had homemade cajun chicken with a big pile of broccoli, kale, and a tablespoon of brown rice with chargrilled peppers and was full up, previously I'd have had a cupful of white rice with it and no veg and been hungry again an hour or two later.
I must admit I have been stressing about it more so with my Mum having had pancreatic cancer and my fear knowing that people with Diabetes are at higher risk so I'll do anything to prevent things progressing.
I don't want to start using a glucose meter at this point in time and making myself more paranoid, though I understand it would show what my body reacts to, think I'll see where I'm at when I get a HbA1c check in the future.
Sounds as if you have a good plan. Let us know how you get on in the future.
A meter is not a necessity, it's just a tool you might choose to use- or not
 

Mrs HJG

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Type of diabetes
LADA
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Tablets (oral)
Hi @Vixsie I can't recommend Jessie Inchauspé's Glucose Revolution book highly enough - it is for everyone not (specifically) people with diabetes, but I'm convinced her hacks have helped me. Savoury breakfast, eat salad or veggies first and carbs last in a meal, coat carbs like fruit with a fat, like greek yoghurt, go for a walk or use your muscles after eating; not a fan of apple cider vinegar, so haven't bothered with that but you may like to try! She's on instagram as @glucosegoddess to give you an idea of what she's about and lots of clear info on how different foods can affect glucose.

PS. Lindt 90% chocolate is lovely, (not that dry, moisture-zapping stuff of some other brands), and a couple of squares after eating tea doesn't affect my BG.
 

Vixsie

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Hi @Vixsie I can't recommend Jessie Inchauspé's Glucose Revolution book highly enough - it is for everyone not (specifically) people with diabetes, but I'm convinced her hacks have helped me. Savoury breakfast, eat salad or veggies first and carbs last in a meal, coat carbs like fruit with a fat, like greek yoghurt, go for a walk or use your muscles after eating; not a fan of apple cider vinegar, so haven't bothered with that but you may like to try! She's on instagram as @glucosegoddess to give you an idea of what she's about and lots of clear info on how different foods can affect glucose.

PS. Lindt 90% chocolate is lovely, (not that dry, moisture-zapping stuff of some other brands), and a couple of squares after eating tea doesn't affect my BG.
Thank you for that, I've just had a look at her Instagram and am now following. There's some very interesting information and advice on there and I'll definitely try it out. Not sure about the vinegar though, I'm certainly not a fan. :dummy:
 
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ChiswickRich

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I'm a 55 year old female, just diagnosed as having pre diabetes, HbA1c of 43 and a raised cholesterol of 6.1mmol, hdl/ldl ratio 3.8

This took me by surprise even though T2 is in the family, I'm 5ft 2 and 8 stone, until a few years ago I was a long distance runner and always considered my diet to be pretty good, although in retrospect I did eat white rice, noodles, white bread, crisps most days and in the build up to Christmas a lot of chocolate, oops. I only have 4 units of alcohol a week and red meat once a week, have always eaten a very low fat diet. I don't smoke and walk a minimum of 3 miles a day.

I have a close friend who is a diabetes specialist nurse who told me chances are I would have T2 already but for my lifestyle, so pretty sobering.

Last year was a very stressful one, due to my Father's ill health and other stresses and my weight dropped to 7 st 7lbs as I wasn't eating so much, by the late Summer my appetite picked up, I put a few pounds back on but started to notice I felt a lot less energetic than usual and lacked stamina, which I put down to my busy and hectic life with work (I'm a Nurse) looking after my Father, not sleeping so well etc.,

By November I started to feel hungry every couple of hours and got in the habit of snacking on little treats, crackers, cheese, the odd chocolate bar but felt more sluggish and more hungry. One day over Christmas I ate a high carb lunch followed by chocolates and a cup of tea and went out for a long walk, at one point feeling sweaty, hot and weak and having to go to the shop to buy something to eat to over come this, at this point I realised something was amiss.

My Maternal Grandfather and his Mother both had T2 and my Maternal Aunt, as does her Daughter. My Mother sadly developed pancreatic cancer at the age of 59 and my fear had always been that rather than Diabetes.

In the week since I found out I've stopped all high GI carbs, swapped to a minimal amount of wholemeal bread, brown rice, fish, chicken, cottage cheese, natural yoghurt, nuts and seeds, pulses and porridge or an omelette for breakfast and am eating a pear or small apple each day and 5 to 6 portions of veg. The difference already is noticeable, more energy and no hunger even though I'm eating way less food.

I'm trying to keep my carbs to the 120 a day mark or less and up my protein intake as my friend suggested but on reading that way less carbs is the way to go am concerned that this is to much. How do I decrease my carbs and keep myself satisfied whilst taking my cholesterol level into the equation?

Is it ok to have the odd few chocolates now and again and when should I incorporate them? Is having the odd G&T with zero calories tonic ok too. I feel I've become quite obsessional about watching everything I eat now and don't want to end up feeling hard done by but equally want to get back to a normal HbA1c.

Apologies for the twenty questions!
My understanding is that plain dark chocolate is a go to option. I suspect that "Chocolates" filled with fondant less so.