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<blockquote data-quote="pavlosn" data-source="post: 688688" data-attributes="member: 22572"><p>Perhaps rather than "can not lower" I should have said "should not lower".</p><p></p><p>I know high glucose levels are bad for us but would getting them done very fast not have been too much of a shock to the system, As a minimum her eyesight would have been temporarily affected and I also understand that the risk of retinopathy is increased by too rapid a drop.</p><p></p><p>The OP is newly diagnosed and wrote in expressing feelings of confusion and of being overwhelmed by what has happening to her and the flood of Information she was received.</p><p></p><p>In the circumstances, and bearing in mind the sort of dietary advice she probably had from her doctor, I do not consider that to advise a reduction of calories to 800 and 80 grams would have been the best way forward.</p><p></p><p>I would be running the risk that the advise would be rejected out hand as too extreme or that the OP would find it too difficult to maintain become disillusioned and give up.</p><p></p><p>I appreciate that personally you found it easier to effectively give up carbs rather than reduce gradually and that is certainly one option. I am not sure that everyone is built the same though.</p><p></p><p>I preferred to offer an advise that was simple to understand and follow "keep post meal counts within two mmol of pre meal counts", would be less likely to scare the OP off, would build habits and educate the OP along the way and hopefully lead her to glycemic control.</p><p></p><p>We can all advise primarily based on our own experience and that has led me to consider that the mental aspect of copying with these disease is extremely important. So in my advise I try not to built expectations to the point where it could risk disillusionment. </p><p></p><p>I am a firm believer that in controlling our disease we need to find the diet and other healthy habits that what work for us and that we will be willing to stick with for life. To achieve this we need to be allowed to experiment along the way, get things wrong even and learn from our mistakes.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps I prefer to look and praise the progress that the OP has already done while pointing out that she still has work to do to get her levels to an acceptable range. </p><p></p><p>Others may prefer to point out that her levels are still too high and she probably is still consuming too many carbs. I am not saying they are wrong. I am saying that they need to give the OP credit for what she has already achieved and allow her to make her own mind up for what her best way forward is.</p><p></p><p>Pavlos</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pavlosn, post: 688688, member: 22572"] Perhaps rather than "can not lower" I should have said "should not lower". I know high glucose levels are bad for us but would getting them done very fast not have been too much of a shock to the system, As a minimum her eyesight would have been temporarily affected and I also understand that the risk of retinopathy is increased by too rapid a drop. The OP is newly diagnosed and wrote in expressing feelings of confusion and of being overwhelmed by what has happening to her and the flood of Information she was received. In the circumstances, and bearing in mind the sort of dietary advice she probably had from her doctor, I do not consider that to advise a reduction of calories to 800 and 80 grams would have been the best way forward. I would be running the risk that the advise would be rejected out hand as too extreme or that the OP would find it too difficult to maintain become disillusioned and give up. I appreciate that personally you found it easier to effectively give up carbs rather than reduce gradually and that is certainly one option. I am not sure that everyone is built the same though. I preferred to offer an advise that was simple to understand and follow "keep post meal counts within two mmol of pre meal counts", would be less likely to scare the OP off, would build habits and educate the OP along the way and hopefully lead her to glycemic control. We can all advise primarily based on our own experience and that has led me to consider that the mental aspect of copying with these disease is extremely important. So in my advise I try not to built expectations to the point where it could risk disillusionment. I am a firm believer that in controlling our disease we need to find the diet and other healthy habits that what work for us and that we will be willing to stick with for life. To achieve this we need to be allowed to experiment along the way, get things wrong even and learn from our mistakes. Perhaps I prefer to look and praise the progress that the OP has already done while pointing out that she still has work to do to get her levels to an acceptable range. Others may prefer to point out that her levels are still too high and she probably is still consuming too many carbs. I am not saying they are wrong. I am saying that they need to give the OP credit for what she has already achieved and allow her to make her own mind up for what her best way forward is. Pavlos [/QUOTE]
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