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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 954263" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p>Hi PerfectStorm, your story really spoke to me as I went through the same kind of thing, post real food ND. </p><p></p><p>My own way of thinking about it, and through it now, some months since (I finished the V-LCD in early March), is that Type 2 just might not be as simple as we might want it to be! The purposes of keeping it in control, or keeping it at bay. Or putting it into remission, or reversing it - however we want to talk about getting better with it or from it. I sure as hell wish it was. Simpler, that is. All those hormones, and nutrients, and cells and processes, working in with each other, and against each other, and at the base of it - our livers and pancreases, and us not really knowing, till push comes to shove, how damaged they have been, and/or how damaged they still are. Or how far we would have to go to get them healthier again? (or even if we can.)</p><p></p><p>Or, if the processes really are pretty simple, ie it's about finding one's Personal Fat Threshold, and keeping it there (due to liver fat and lack of), then the act of keeping oneself at a low PFT is not! For me, I had to get very lean to arrive at a HBA1c of 40 (not anything like the really dramatic drops in HBA1c you can see in the ND outcomes), and I found it too hard to keep it there, in that my weight and HBA1c went up without me even being very conscious of it. I take it this is not so uncommon after VLCDs, and LCDs. </p><p></p><p>For some people, doing the ND, in whatever form, kicks their bodies into post-diabetic shape, dramatically and even fairly quickly. But even after reading in here for many months,I am still not sure how many post-diabetic (to use NoCarbs4me's expression) can eat like a person who was never diagnosed in the first place, again. Considering their known tendency to develop insulin resistance. I never knew what happened to one of my forum pals, Glitterbritches, after he became post-diabetic after the ND. Sometimes we don't know what happens to these folk over time. (I often think about Glitterbritches, and wonder where he, and his blood glucose, is now. I hope he was one of the ones that had a permanent 'reboot' into non-diabetic health.)</p><p></p><p>But what does this mean for those who continue to struggle after the ND and creeping up BG? (ie evidence, lest we forget, of our liver and pancreas and all those complex processes not functioning properly.) We continue to live as diabetics, probably with very tight control. And look back on FBGs of old (like I did this morning) and glory in the fact one has come a long long way. Ie We actually really are doing great things for our health, have done great things for our health. For me, I remember when my goal was an HBA1c of 48, which looked unreachable, so even though I get disappointed when my BG floats around in the 6s all day, and my HBA1c is currently 43, this T2D, and my health, and I am, truly 'a work in progress'. (Swiping some lovely forum writer's tagline there.)</p><p></p><p>And yeah - the intermittent fasting regimes seem to work very well as continuous 'rebooters' in the weight and/or BG levels dropping sense. Ditto seeing T2D in terms of your personal level of tolerance for carbs. Raising BG? Lower the carbs. </p><p></p><p>I know it is (all) much easier said than done. But that's what we have the forum for? To help us keep on going.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 954263, member: 150927"] Hi PerfectStorm, your story really spoke to me as I went through the same kind of thing, post real food ND. My own way of thinking about it, and through it now, some months since (I finished the V-LCD in early March), is that Type 2 just might not be as simple as we might want it to be! The purposes of keeping it in control, or keeping it at bay. Or putting it into remission, or reversing it - however we want to talk about getting better with it or from it. I sure as hell wish it was. Simpler, that is. All those hormones, and nutrients, and cells and processes, working in with each other, and against each other, and at the base of it - our livers and pancreases, and us not really knowing, till push comes to shove, how damaged they have been, and/or how damaged they still are. Or how far we would have to go to get them healthier again? (or even if we can.) Or, if the processes really are pretty simple, ie it's about finding one's Personal Fat Threshold, and keeping it there (due to liver fat and lack of), then the act of keeping oneself at a low PFT is not! For me, I had to get very lean to arrive at a HBA1c of 40 (not anything like the really dramatic drops in HBA1c you can see in the ND outcomes), and I found it too hard to keep it there, in that my weight and HBA1c went up without me even being very conscious of it. I take it this is not so uncommon after VLCDs, and LCDs. For some people, doing the ND, in whatever form, kicks their bodies into post-diabetic shape, dramatically and even fairly quickly. But even after reading in here for many months,I am still not sure how many post-diabetic (to use NoCarbs4me's expression) can eat like a person who was never diagnosed in the first place, again. Considering their known tendency to develop insulin resistance. I never knew what happened to one of my forum pals, Glitterbritches, after he became post-diabetic after the ND. Sometimes we don't know what happens to these folk over time. (I often think about Glitterbritches, and wonder where he, and his blood glucose, is now. I hope he was one of the ones that had a permanent 'reboot' into non-diabetic health.) But what does this mean for those who continue to struggle after the ND and creeping up BG? (ie evidence, lest we forget, of our liver and pancreas and all those complex processes not functioning properly.) We continue to live as diabetics, probably with very tight control. And look back on FBGs of old (like I did this morning) and glory in the fact one has come a long long way. Ie We actually really are doing great things for our health, have done great things for our health. For me, I remember when my goal was an HBA1c of 48, which looked unreachable, so even though I get disappointed when my BG floats around in the 6s all day, and my HBA1c is currently 43, this T2D, and my health, and I am, truly 'a work in progress'. (Swiping some lovely forum writer's tagline there.) And yeah - the intermittent fasting regimes seem to work very well as continuous 'rebooters' in the weight and/or BG levels dropping sense. Ditto seeing T2D in terms of your personal level of tolerance for carbs. Raising BG? Lower the carbs. I know it is (all) much easier said than done. But that's what we have the forum for? To help us keep on going. [/QUOTE]
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