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<blockquote data-quote="viviennem" data-source="post: 177991" data-attributes="member: 31282"><p>This strikes a chord with something I've been idly mulling over in the last few weeks.</p><p></p><p>Diabetics are more prone to coronary heart disease, strokes, kidney failure - etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>These conclusions are generally worked out statistically. So - are we really more prone to those conditions, or is it that the diabetics who don't take control - like the dialysis patients you mention, eating sweets and chocolates - or the ones who aren't diagnosed until very late, when they may already have those conditions, are skewing the statistics against us?</p><p></p><p>Is there something about diabetes that will lead to those conditions despite good control, healthy diet and plenty of exercise? Or is it that the diabetics who have had those conditions and become part of the statistics have lived a lifestyle that would have heightened the risk in non-diabetics?</p><p></p><p>Alway excepting those people who have the diseases for other reasons - I am absolutely NOT saying that everyone who has (eg) CHD has led a bad lifestyle!</p><p></p><p>Can anyone point me in the direction of the answers?</p><p></p><p>Viv <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="viviennem, post: 177991, member: 31282"] This strikes a chord with something I've been idly mulling over in the last few weeks. Diabetics are more prone to coronary heart disease, strokes, kidney failure - etc. etc. These conclusions are generally worked out statistically. So - are we really more prone to those conditions, or is it that the diabetics who don't take control - like the dialysis patients you mention, eating sweets and chocolates - or the ones who aren't diagnosed until very late, when they may already have those conditions, are skewing the statistics against us? Is there something about diabetes that will lead to those conditions despite good control, healthy diet and plenty of exercise? Or is it that the diabetics who have had those conditions and become part of the statistics have lived a lifestyle that would have heightened the risk in non-diabetics? Alway excepting those people who have the diseases for other reasons - I am absolutely NOT saying that everyone who has (eg) CHD has led a bad lifestyle! Can anyone point me in the direction of the answers? Viv :) [/QUOTE]
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