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<blockquote data-quote="JoKalsbeek" data-source="post: 2066198" data-attributes="member: 401801"><p>The flu like symptoms are temporary, but can be abated by drinking bone broth or something rich in electrolytes, like coconut milk. You're probably slightly dehydrated and need some salts and extra water. Those first pounds fly off because they're mainly water weight, and with the water, your salt/electrolytes get urinated out too. Hence the aches. As for the not-a-fan-of-veggies, they're just one part of the diet... There's still meat, fish and poultry, nuts, eggs, cheese, cream, full fat greek yoghurt, berries (in moderation, but if you miss fruit, those are the go-to's), that sort of thing... There are people on the board who go the carnivore route, they only eat meat, and are practically zero carb a day eaters. This diet is easier to do without veggies than it is to do it without meat, truth be told. As for your father-in-law, he'll probably have to go the low carb route when the Newcastle diet is done, as it's not meant to be used long-term, just to kick start weightloss and normalise bloodsugars. But after that he too will have to do what you're currently doing to maintain the improvements he's getting with the shakes now. Quite a few people don't bother with the shakes because they're carbier per shake than what a lot of us use in a day. To while it is a good starting point, it's not something to keep up for decades. LCHF is.</p><p></p><p>You're off to a flying start. You'll be fine. And maybe this'll help: Dr. Jason Fung's the Diabetes Code, <a href="http://www.dietdoctor.com" target="_blank">www.dietdoctor.com</a> and <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/the-nutritional-thingy.2330/" target="_blank">https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/the-nutritional-thingy.2330/</a></p><p></p><p>I do hope your leg's alright now... Though it won't have helped matters, it is also more than possible that the stress and trauma of the attack and complications after contributed to the T2 developing almost overnight. That's not a small thing right there. I don't know how you're sleeping, but if you're having trouble there, try CBD oil. I've been an insomniac all my life, but that stuff helped me get into a normal sleeping pattern. (Though it is a derivative of cannabis, there are no hallucinogenic components, so it's not a drug or anything. My 67 year old mum uses it too, and for me it also helps with panic atacks and rheumatic pain, where conventional drugs did ziltsch on both counts.). Just checking, because sleep for a T2 is very important. If that's messed up, sugars are hard to control too. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, good luck to you, and welcome. If you've got more questions, ask. There's always a bunch of people here with a variety of answers, one of which is bound to suit you. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Jo</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoKalsbeek, post: 2066198, member: 401801"] The flu like symptoms are temporary, but can be abated by drinking bone broth or something rich in electrolytes, like coconut milk. You're probably slightly dehydrated and need some salts and extra water. Those first pounds fly off because they're mainly water weight, and with the water, your salt/electrolytes get urinated out too. Hence the aches. As for the not-a-fan-of-veggies, they're just one part of the diet... There's still meat, fish and poultry, nuts, eggs, cheese, cream, full fat greek yoghurt, berries (in moderation, but if you miss fruit, those are the go-to's), that sort of thing... There are people on the board who go the carnivore route, they only eat meat, and are practically zero carb a day eaters. This diet is easier to do without veggies than it is to do it without meat, truth be told. As for your father-in-law, he'll probably have to go the low carb route when the Newcastle diet is done, as it's not meant to be used long-term, just to kick start weightloss and normalise bloodsugars. But after that he too will have to do what you're currently doing to maintain the improvements he's getting with the shakes now. Quite a few people don't bother with the shakes because they're carbier per shake than what a lot of us use in a day. To while it is a good starting point, it's not something to keep up for decades. LCHF is. You're off to a flying start. You'll be fine. And maybe this'll help: Dr. Jason Fung's the Diabetes Code, [URL="http://www.dietdoctor.com"]www.dietdoctor.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/the-nutritional-thingy.2330/[/URL] I do hope your leg's alright now... Though it won't have helped matters, it is also more than possible that the stress and trauma of the attack and complications after contributed to the T2 developing almost overnight. That's not a small thing right there. I don't know how you're sleeping, but if you're having trouble there, try CBD oil. I've been an insomniac all my life, but that stuff helped me get into a normal sleeping pattern. (Though it is a derivative of cannabis, there are no hallucinogenic components, so it's not a drug or anything. My 67 year old mum uses it too, and for me it also helps with panic atacks and rheumatic pain, where conventional drugs did ziltsch on both counts.). Just checking, because sleep for a T2 is very important. If that's messed up, sugars are hard to control too. Anyway, good luck to you, and welcome. If you've got more questions, ask. There's always a bunch of people here with a variety of answers, one of which is bound to suit you. :) Jo [/QUOTE]
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