i was looking up stats on deaths from diabetes, and two things struck me:
1) couldn't find any official statistics as it's normally the actual death rather than diabetes listed as the cause (e.g. Drowning after hypo) and the body continues to release glucose after death so you can never 100% say it was from hypos
2) supposedly according to a (I think) 2011 study, 1/20 diabetics die from hypos???
Second point really blew me away! And why isn't this information more available?
My friend died from a hypo. I get it.
That said, tight control makes sense for those with type 2 diabetes so long as they're not using insulin or a diabetes medication that forces the pancreas to make more insulin. Hypo's aren't a problem for them. This also can be accomplished with diet and exercise alone. So quite rewarding to do so. I know. I'm one of those people.
@fletchweb I'm impressed that you don't have any complications. What's your secret? What's your diet like? Do you take any nutritional supplements? How physically active are you?
Fletchweb, we've mentioned this before. You are quoting REALLY BAD SCIENCE here. None of the studies that have been done were stopped due to high mortality from subjects dying from hypos.My endo wasn't of that school of thought and said just keep on with the mid 7 A1Cs - he told me many of the studies that Doctors quote in support of tight control had been discontinued because of the high mortality of its subjects who died from hypos.
I'm very pleased for you that you've achieved 51 years with no complications with your A1C in the 7s. That's fantastic, but I do think you are constantly overstating the risk of death from hypos for those who are achieving levels well below yours, which I don't think is helpful. If people are achieving Hba1Cs around 6% without severe hypos, the risk of death from hypoglycaemia simply isn't high.Intensive blood glucose control reduces risk of
- any cardiovascular disease event 42% reduced risk
- nonfatal heart attack, stroke, or death from cardiovascular causes 57% reduced risk
I'm not telling anyone to do anything - I don't want that responsibility, I'm just relating my life story, I hope I didn;t offend anyone, that certainly was not my intent ... I think it's time I probably shut up and go on my way....Fletchweb, we've mentioned this before. You are quoting REALLY BAD SCIENCE here. None of the studies that have been done were stopped due to high mortality from subjects dying from hypos.
If we look at the numbers the OP presented, if 1 in 20 type 1 diabetics die from Hypos, I assume this is annually), that would be a net reduction in people living with type 1 of about 22,500 a year in the US (1.25mn people in 2014, with 40k new diagnoses). Given that the number of T1s is increasing, this seems to be incorrect.
As it happens, your dietary and exercise approach isn't that far from mine, I just target a lower average glucose level. I've also been fortunate not to have major issues with severe lows.I'm not telling anyone to do anything - I don't want that responsibility, I'm just relating my life story, I hope I didn;t offend anyone, that certainly was not my intent ... I think it's time I probably shut up and go on my way....
Cheers
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