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Am i diabetic or Not?

brianb

Well-Known Member
Messages
151
Location
Hebburn, Tyne and Wear
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
Sorry for this long winded posting and to all the people who have read and answered my questions on this matter when I was first diagnosed in March this year.

A little history

Beginning of March My place of work setup a “well being clinic” for a week where a doctor and few nurses came along to give anyone who wanted a heath check could do so in works time  So not wanting to miss a skive I attended……………wish I hadn’t.

Anyway we had to take a urine sample along, which the nurse tested, then retested Oh she says you have got glucose in your urine….let me test your blood pressure…..oh that’s a wee bit high 185/110…….. You need to go to your doctors today; she wrote me a note and sent me away.

So went to the docs where she ordered a fasting blood glucose and retested my BP, still high at this point……….who’s wouldn’t after being sent home from work with a note for the doctor!

Anyway after a few days the first fasting result came back as 8.7 so they took another fasting test and that came back as 8.9 so they diagnosed me as being a type 2 on the spot with no further tests. Decided that I needed to take Simvastatin, Aspirin and Lisinpril…never been ill in my life, don’t even take Paraceamol unless I have a real mans cold and on me death bed so this was a SHOCK.

It’s worth mentioning my aunty and her nephew are type 2 diabetics so there is family history.

Anyway taking the good advice from this forum a bought a test meter and tested until my fingers were sore, now my readings go a bit like this

Fasting levels on getting out of bed usually about 6.9 give or take a little.
1 hour after meals 8.9 ish can hit 10 if I really load the carbs i.e. good curry with all the extras 
2 hours after meal can be down to 5.5

Don’t really do low carb, still eat potatoes etc BUT Bread does make me go to 8.9 after only 2 slices, don’t know if that’s significant.

Now to me and after reading this forum for many months this does not sound like a true diabetic to me.

I don’t go over 10 and I return to normal levels after 2 hours, from what I’ve read this is a normal person’s response.

No before I was diagnosed I used to drink about a litre of coke/pepsi a day, never really bothered about sweets or sugars more of a savoury man myself weighed in at 16 stone and had Non Alcoholic Liver Disease (NASH) and My ALT were around the 150 mark…That’s high…..and had this condition for nearly 20 Years (I’m 42 at the moment)

After my second high BG they did my first HBA which came back at 6.4, Now if I was diabetic and at the point of my first HBA I had not given up pop etc then wouldn’t my HBA have been a lot higher if I was diabetic.

Now back to my liver problem. The liver is responsible for handling glucose amongst other things and as I have a dodgy liver could this not have given a couple of high reading making me look diabetic?

Now I have lost a bit weight since diagnosed and I have gone from 16 stone to
13st 12, still overweight but going in the right direction.

My ALTS have returned to normal after all these years, don’t know if weight loss has helped this or not.

As I say my BG appears to be normal

SO

Big question is AM I DIABETIC????

Is there a test which would prove this without question?

I also purchased a blood pressure meter and my averages on that are about 130/85 which are normal for a non diabetic I think

I don’t mind being diabetic But I don’t like all the drugs that the say I MUST take as a preventative measure. IE Simvastatin to keep my Cholesterol down. My Chol was only 5.8 on diagnosis and only needs to be lower because of diabetes. They say take lisinopril to help protect the kidneys because im diabetic.

You’ve all been there so you know what im saying, because you are diabetic all this extra baggage gets thrown in.

As I say im Never ill, don’t take meds and to be honest im feeling a bit down about the whole thing.

ANY ADVICE PLEASE.

Sorry
Brian
 
Hi Brian
Sounds like you're in a technology trap - in the old days by the time diabetes was picked up it was clear cut!
Just because your bs is normal after altering your diet doesn' t mean you're off the hook. You could be described as "diet controlled diabetic" or "carbohydrate intolerant" in the sense if you ate carbs freely you'd be in the diabetic range, but can avoid that by diet modification. I don't know the effect of your liver condition, but any illness puts the body under physical stress, which means you need more insulin. Maybe the liver condition over a long period meant your body couldn't meet the extra demands. If you're not diabetic now, you've had a warning that your body's struggling to produce/use enough insulin so you need to keep an eye out for symptoms in the future. Illness or stress may put you back into the diabetic range.
Well done for losing all the weight, that's the way to go.
Best avoid sugary pop and fruit juice, because the sugar's released into the blood stream very fast so it needs a large amount of insulin over a short period to control the blood sugar. As bread seems to spike you blood sugar, best avoid it or eat in combination with plenty of low carb, low GI food such as salad to blunt the bread effect.
Sue

PS Sorry, meant to add re the statins etc - in the end it's your decision, they can't make you take them if you don't want to.
 
Hi Sue
Thanks for the reply.

What i need is a test that confirms it or not. I have only seen the doctor when i first went to the surgery following on from the Well being clinic. Since then i have only seen the practice nurse, and to be honest i dont really trust her, She means well but i feel like im intruding on her time when i ask her a question. I feel like I'm being a soft lad wanting to know what is going on and i feel apprehensive about asking her anything else. Im never unwell and dont want to impose on the Surgery anymore than i need to but this has been going around in my head for a few months now and i just cant get settled, if that makes sense.

Every test i do suggests i am NOT diabetic and when i say this to the nurse they just sort of sweep it to one side as if i dont know what i am saying......

I have not went low carb to be honest only cut out the fizzy drinks, so cant se that one thing would ake that much difference.

Anyway Thanks again
Brian
 
TBH Brian you need to go and see your doctor.You are not wasting their time ,it is your health and you have every right to ask questions!!
As for the medications they put you on ,that is your decision whether you take them,or need them,these are standard medications that all diabetics are offered on diagnosis but you always have the last word in your own treatment.
 
You could view it that before the days of glucose tolerance tests, HbA1c and instant blood monitoring, you'd probably have been diagnosed with diabetes in a few years' time, already with complications. Instead you've been given a headstart and a chance to make changes now to at least try to avoid those complications by losing weight and modifying your diet.

Having said that, I can understand you wanting a defnite yes or no, unfortunately life is often shades of grey instead of black and white.
Sue
 
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