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Argh, I’m so confused!!

apdouglas

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Hi everyone!

Could anyone please explain to me why I can't keep my BG under control between breakfast and Lunch.

I find that I generally wake up in the 5's and 6's and after lunch and up to when I go to bed, I’m usually in the 6's and 7's which to me I’m quite comfortable with at the moment. My problem is that after breakfast I just can't seem to keep my BG down and sometimes it even goes into double figures!

I have tried all sorts of different breakfasts for instance this morning, woke up and my BG was 5.8. I had scrambled egg (3 eggs between me and the wife) with smoked salmon and half a slice of toast (nimble - about 9 carbs per slice so 4.5 per half) 2 hours after I was 8.9!! This happens with everything I have on a morning, I’ve even tried not having anything but it still goes up to 8's and 9's!!

I spoke to my GP and he said it’s quite common and not for me to worry about it because my HBa1c is coming down all the time and it's nothing to be alarmed about. He also said that it could be to do with what I eat on evening but that doesn't make any sense to me.

Could anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks

Andrew
 
Hi Andrew,

If I could get the readings your getting, I would be over the moon with Joy as you are in the NORMAL zone.

Most people go over 8 when just eaten. I assume it's your metabalism has been asleep same as the rest of your body, and it does not start to wake up and work until something hits your stomach.

But your readings sound great to me.

I get up and I am around 11 to 13 ish, I do not eat breckfast ( just coz I don't feel like it, even though we all should) then my bloods drop sometimes by lunch only 1 or 2, sometimes they go up even.

Are you on insulin, diet controlled or tablet controlled ?
 
Hi Eliminator

Thanks for the response.

I am on diet only at the moment and i feel like i'm getting control slowly but surely, it's just the period between breakfast and lunch i can't get to grips with. I would be happy if i would stay around the 7's or 8's 2 hours after breakfast but i can sometimes be in the 9's for about 4 hours before it starts to come down.

It is almost as if my body doesn't wake up until lunch time, i just find it strange thats all. I did wonder whether having metformin on a morning could help but my GP says he doesn't want me going on meds until my hba1c starts to either stopping going down or go up.

Cheers

Andrew
 
If your only on diet and your bloods are in the zone, you are doing very well anyway.
The only thing I could think of that might help is after your breckfast, it might be worth taking a brisk 10 min walk, even just to the shop for a paper or take the dog out or something. Walk just a little faster than you normaly walk. This might help to burn off that little extra on your blood count, and if nothing else it's good excersize that we all should do every day anyway. :wink:

Try it and let us know ?

Eliminator.
 
This sounds very familiar to me, apdouglas :? Most of my readings in the morning are mid-way betweem 5-6, yet my readings will rise quite a bit, no matter what I eat, or even if I eat nothing. Since I started low carbing I'm no longer ravenously hungry, which is great, but I often find I can't face anything to eat until I'm up and about.

What I have been doing is test when I wake up at around 7am, then before I eat when I have gone to work. I usualy have my breakfast just after 9am. I also test at 1 and 2 hours after eating. I think it is important to eat breakfast, but what you eat and the time you eat it I think is very important.

What I have found is that my blood glucose rises in the mornings, one day last week by almost 2 points without eating in the sapace of 1 hour 45 minutes :shock: :shock: :shock: I am trying to draw some comfort in that what I did eventially eat then caused a minimal rise of only about 0.5 :| :?

I have posted on this - dawn phenomenon and liver dumps - because I have found it quite frustrating :cry: It also varies in relation to my menstrual cycle and it worse just before my period starts. From my reading generally and the postsings of others here I know this morning rise is a common problem to some extent for most of us. I'm not happy with my BG going over 6.5 after meals and I'd be hapier if it was slightly lower before eating, but I'm hoping this will change as I continue to lose weight and the insulin resistence drops.

At the moment I'm just back from holiday and my control has been a bit more "relaxed" but not that much more relaxed :wink: I'm about to start metformin because I think it will help me get to where I want to go - reducing my blood sugar to normal levels and assist with the weight loss. I'm keen to find out what will happen to my morning readings.

From the advice of others, things like the timing of your breakfast and snacking a bit later in the evening the night before may help - we are all different tho and what works for one will not necessarily work for another. I can't face anything that involves too much chewing first thing, so the nuts I had started to keep by my bed went uneaten at 7am :roll: but something like a protien shake is easier to deal with, but I need to be a bit better organised in the evening to make it and take it up with me.

Have a look through recent threads on liver dumps and dawn phenomenon, you might find some more info there. Good luck.
 
I think the dawn phenomenon may not be the reason, it mostly affects pre breakfast blood sugars. But most of us are most insulin resistant in the morning, which may be why even a low carb brekkie sends you high. By lunch time your cells have woken up and are reacting to your insulin hence the sugars are coming down. If it really bothers you and doesnt seem to come down, you could talk to your gp to see if morning dose of metforming could help with the resistance.
 
Thanks everyone for taking the time out to comment.

I do think my body just needs a little bit of help on a morning and I have a review with my GP in a couple of weeks so I'll have a chat with him and see if a morning dose of metformion will help.

In the meantime I am going to try and pick up the pace when walking to work in the morning just to see if that little bit of extra exercise can help lower things a bit more.

Once agian, thankyou for all your comments.

Cheers

Andrew
 
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