HelenMW
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 77
- Location
- Scunthorpe
- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Tablets (oral)
- Dislikes
- Spiders, peas and most of all diabetes!
Oh thanks so much for replying so quickly. Yes that makes perfect sense and has put my mind at rest a bit. I was certainly very inactive in hospital and they would do my BG without me having to do any more than just lift up a finger!! Thanks again xHi there Helen, I'm sorry to hear that you've been through such a lot. Can I just suggest to you that in the hospital you were resting all the time getting betterso your BG level in the morning would be low but at home you will be up and moving around so this thing -often referred to as Dawn Phenomenon" happens where your liver releases stored energy (glycogen) into your bloodstream to give you the energy to get up and moving. This sends your levels up and happens to everyone even if they don't have diabetes. It's just, with us, until we get our diabetes under control it is a more marked rise. Hope this has helped? I'm going to tag @daisy1 who'll come along shortly with some great information for you. After you read that you can ask absolutely anything and someone will answer you. Best wishes with your future health.
Hi Lizanne. Saw your wonderful good news that you posted this morning. Well Done.Hi there Helen, I'm sorry to hear that you've been through such a lot. Can I just suggest to you that in the hospital you were resting all the time getting betterso your BG level in the morning would be low but at home you will be up and moving around so this thing -often referred to as Dawn Phenomenon" happens where your liver releases stored energy (glycogen) into your bloodstream to give you the energy to get up and moving. This sends your levels up and happens to everyone even if they don't have diabetes. It's just, with us, until we get our diabetes under control it is a more marked rise. Hope this has helped? I'm going to tag @daisy1 who'll come along shortly with some great information for you. After you read that you can ask absolutely anything and someone will answer you. Best wishes with your future health.
Hi Lizanne. Saw your wonderful good news that you posted this morning. Well Done.
@HelenMW This lady is a success and her story is worth following.
I too had 2 strokes a few years back. I have suffered slight loss of mobility from them, but was able to hold my job until i retired 3 yrs ago. What Lizanne says about the dawn thingy is correct. When i was running high bgl levels (15-28+) then I used to drop lower in the mornings, but since getting my levels under better control I now find I see higher morning readings. It is as if my body wants to keep me at between 6 and 7 even though I can get below 4 after a meal at night. Next morning 6.5 without eating a thing. my daily average is currently 6.8 and has been all Jan. Now I can live with this average and chip away at it over time, but i sense you are still around the 10 mark?
For me the breakthrough came with the LCHF diet (as it did for Lizanne) and I can say that it works well for me.
Thanks, that's a great help. Makes me feel like I'm doing OK after all. LCHF - is that Low Carb High Fibre? I've signed up to the low carb plan on here, early days but I do think that's going to be the way forward. Thanks again xHi Lizanne. Saw your wonderful good news that you posted this morning. Well Done.
@HelenMW This lady is a success and her story is worth following.
I too had 2 strokes a few years back. I have suffered slight loss of mobility from them, but was able to hold my job until i retired 3 yrs ago. What Lizanne says about the dawn thingy is correct. When i was running high bgl levels (15-28+) then I used to drop lower in the mornings, but since getting my levels under better control I now find I see higher morning readings. It is as if my body wants to keep me at between 6 and 7 even though I can get below 4 after a meal at night. Next morning 6.5 without eating a thing. my daily average is currently 6.8 and has been all Jan. Now I can live with this average and chip away at it over time, but i sense you are still around the 10 mark?
For me the breakthrough came with the LCHF diet (as it did for Lizanne) and I can say that it works well for me.
Thanks, that's brilliant. I love the idea that my blood is sweeter than average, makes sense to me!@HelenMW
Hello Helen and welcome to the forumYou will find it helpful to reduce the carbs in your diet. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes
LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Hi HelenThanks, that's a great help. Makes me feel like I'm doing OK after all. LCHF - is that Low Carb High Fibre? I've signed up to the low carb plan on here, early days but I do think that's going to be the way forward. Thanks again x
Hi HelenMW, thats low carb high fat, and welcome to the forumThanks, that's a great help. Makes me feel like I'm doing OK after all. LCHF - is that Low Carb High Fibre? I've signed up to the low carb plan on here, early days but I do think that's going to be the way forward. Thanks again x
Not quite. HF= high fat. Surprising since it goes against all that we have been taught about diet, but the latest research shows it is not the bogeyman we once branded it as. There are other LC diets, and the important point to bear in mind is LOW CARB = low bgl. The fat component is there so you can compensate for lower carbs, and it gives a feeling of being satiated again with weight control.Thanks, that's a great help. Makes me feel like I'm doing OK after all. LCHF - is that Low Carb High Fibre? I've signed up to the low carb plan on here, early days but I do think that's going to be the way forward. Thanks again x
Wow I'm up for some high fat! I've joined the programme but only just on week 2 so not fully up and running with it yet. I've decided that of all the things that have gone wrong with me this year the diabetes is the only thing I can have any control over so I'm going to throw myself into it whole-heartedly!Hi Helen
No the diet is much nicer than that its Low Carb High Fat..
Many of us have great results using it.. have a look at the low carb page on this forum.
Thank you xHi HelenMW, thats low carb high fat, and welcome to the forum
Thanks, I'm just starting to get my head around it and, like you say, it's so different from what they told me in hospital but I'm confident it will work for me xNot quite. HF= high fat. Surprising since it goes against all that we have been taught about diet, but the latest research shows it is not the bogeyman we once branded it as. There are other LC diets, and the important point to bear in mind is LOW CARB = low bgl. The fat component is there so you can compensate for lower carbs, and it gives a feeling of being satiated again with weight control.
Well done. The Low Carb subthread on this Forum will be a good source of info for you, and I recommend the cookbook recipes. Some here advocate dietdoctor website. My family had a LCHF christmas, and actually enjoyed it. My fussy daughter actually prefers the new dishes compared to where we were 4 months ago. There is a lovely LC pizza somewhere.
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