SunnyExpat
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It is well known - read this forum - that the advice the NHS hands out on nutrition is out dated. They put the Fear of Fat into people and it is hard to convince them otherwise. Of course it is your body and you should fill it as you want but borrowing the book MIGHT be an eye opener. The MAJORITY of members know about fat and it's benefits. Unfortunately some are still waiting to be convinced.
I was always mostly vegetarian until recently, I ate some tuna and salmon, but mostly ate veggie meals.
If I eat veggie/vegan is this bad for HBA1C. Surely if I am not diabetic it isn't a problem, Does anyone else eat veggie and not find it a problem? do you still cut carbs down? I am trying to keep my carbs at 150g a day, and fats from avocados, flax seeds and olive oil.
Hi @jingyd36 a veggie/vegan diet isn't any better or worse than a traditional meat and two veg diet, its all about balance, variety and ensuring you get all the nutrients your body needs. e.g. veggie who lives on pizza is just as unhealthy as a meat eater who lives on bacon butties
In my own experience I found my old veggie diet was very very bad for my HbA1c, I ate porridge, lots of fruit and pasta etc. I didn't realise it at the time but even though I didn't eat refined carbs and sugars (everything was wholegrain, high fibre etc and cakes and biscuits were very very occasional treats) my diet was still high carb and had lot of sugar from fruit (average apple has about 4 teaspoons of sugar in it).
I wasn't obese (never have been) but diabetes is in family. After diagnosis I bought a meter and tested my own bodies reaction to foods, I had a shockingly high blood glucose spike after porridge, So I now follow a lower carb with healthy fat veggie diet, I also had carb flu but once I upped my healthy fats (avocado, nuts etc) I felt so much better.
If you are concerned about not becoming diabetic I would suggest lowering (not cutting out) your carb intake, making swaps such as mashed cauliflower instead of/or bulking out mashed potatoes, reducing amount of fruit and increasing low carb vegetables etc. Courgette noodles instead of pasta etc
There is a veggie low carb forum that has recipes on it f you want to have a look for some inspiration.
It's immaterial either way, the op isn't diabetic.
Because we are nice, helpful people. OP is trying to prevent her hba1c rising further while coping with health anxiety (mentioned on a different thread).Then why are we discussing it in a diabetes forum?
Apples contain fructose and a high amount of fiber which slows down the rise in blood sugars. Equating it to 4 teaspoons of sugar isn't helpful...imo
Saturated fat isn't the evil it is made out to be. That myth was debunked decades ago. These people done well eating fat.
http://www.theiflife.com/the-inuit-paradox-high-fat-lower-heart-disease-and-cancer/
Nobody is suggesting that the "average" person should go down that road, just pointing out that saturated fat isn't bad for you. Most diabetics know this...but some don't.
Written by a GP.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Chole...d=1459505580&sr=1-1&keywords=malcolm+kendrick
I agree. It affects me terribly so I'm cutting animal fat out of my diet for health and ethical reasons. Saturated fat does effect the heart otherwise they wouldn't say burgers, fries etc.. are bad for the heart and our health.I know for certain saturated fat raises my cholesterol a LOT. I have no fear of fat, plant fat that is. Avocados olive oil olives nuts and seeds are a part of my every day diet. Red meat only occasionally and in small amounts. One would think we would know by now that we are all individuals and every one reacts differently. I don't doubt there are people that saturated fat has little effect but to say everyone can eat it with no ill effects is proposturous.
Thank you. Yes I'm trying to find a way of eating that'll suit both problems i have. Hopinglis to bring down the high hba1c and cholesterol. It has caused me some anxiety going from not having any health issues to suddenly having ano underactive thyroid aswell as these 2 high results.Because we are nice, helpful people. OP is trying to prevent her hba1c rising further while coping with health anxiety (mentioned on a different thread).
Thank you for the great advice.Hi @jingyd36 a veggie/vegan diet isn't any better or worse than a traditional meat and two veg diet, its all about balance, variety and ensuring you get all the nutrients your body needs. e.g. veggie who lives on pizza is just as unhealthy as a meat eater who lives on bacon butties
In my own experience I found my old veggie diet was very very bad for my HbA1c, I ate porridge, lots of fruit and pasta etc. I didn't realise it at the time but even though I didn't eat refined carbs and sugars (everything was wholegrain, high fibre etc and cakes and biscuits were very very occasional treats) my diet was still high carb and had lot of sugar from fruit (average apple has about 4 teaspoons of sugar in it).
I wasn't obese (never have been) but diabetes is in family. After diagnosis I bought a meter and tested my own bodies reaction to foods, I had a shockingly high blood glucose spike after porridge, So I now follow a lower carb with healthy fat veggie diet, I also had carb flu but once I upped my healthy fats (avocado, nuts etc) I felt so much better.
If you are concerned about not becoming diabetic I would suggest lowering (not cutting out) your carb intake, making swaps such as mashed cauliflower instead of/or bulking out mashed potatoes, reducing amount of fruit and increasing low carb vegetables etc. Courgette noodles instead of pasta etc
There is a veggie low carb forum that has recipes on it f you want to have a look for some inspiration.
Yes my b12 was tested last summer. It was 212. Low but gp didn't want to treat. It's now up on 500. I'm supplementing myself.Has your GP tested your B12 levels and CoQ10. The body cannot make these vitamins and vegan replacements are not too easy to come across (esp B12). The CoQ10 is required in your cells as part of the glucose processing conveyor so if you are low this may also increase your HbA1c. B12 absorbtion also requires CoQ10. Just a thought!
I am not a fan of nuts but I have almond milk and nakd bars to try to eat some nuts occasionally.Olives, nuts , seeds , avocado/ guacaole?
how about CoQ10?Yes my b12 was tested last summer. It was 212. Low but gp didn't want to treat. It's now up on 500. I'm supplementing myself.
I've never supplemented that.how about CoQ10?
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