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Anamaus

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I sent this tho diabetic.co.uk on facebook. They pointed me here.

Hi ive recently been diagnosed with type 2. I follow all your posts and advice. I habe read anything with "diabetic" food wise isnt any better for you than normal stuff. Such as chocolate. My nurse has said i cant eat anything like biscuits or treats. But websites like yours says i can. I don't knoe what to do. Any advice please. I don't want to write thid public becuase I'm embarrassed with the stigma of how ive got this diabetes myself because I'm fat. Im getting told to do different thinga off so many "specialists" and they seem to contradict themselves..
 
Hi and welcome,

Firstly, getting diabetes is not your fault, so please try not to be embarrassed or look on it as a stigma. There are plenty of thin people with Type 2, and plenty of fat people without type 2. You have just been unlucky. You can relax on this forum. We are all diabetics of one sort or another, and we are here to learn from each other, support those struggling, and advise newcomers. So welcome aboard, and never be afraid to post or ask questions.

I assume it is the Facebook page posts and advice you have been following? Not the best place for constructive advice. This forum will help you.

You are right about "diabetic" foods. They need to be avoided at all costs as the sugar has been replaced with sweeteners that can make your tummy react quite violently! Most of them shouldn't even be labelled as such. They are a rip off.

Your nurse is right. You need to cut out all sugary foods such as biscuits, cakes etc. and I'm sure this particular website says the same as far as Type 2s are concerned. We already have too much sugar (glucose) in our blood streams without putting more in. If you absolutely feel the need for chocolate, then the very high percentage cocoa dark chocolate is OK, but only one or two small squares as a treat.

I am going to tag @daisy1 who will post an introductory message that contains excellent information for newcomers. Please read it when it arrives and follow the links she gives.

What you will need is a home blood glucose meter. They are essential. You should also ask your surgery for print outs of your test results, not just glucose but also cholesterol, lipids, kidney and liver functions and anything else they included. These are important as we need to know exactly where we are starting from, how much work we need to do, and if we are improving or not. You will be having many more blood tests in the future and need this exact information to compare.

Please read round the forum threads, and ask as many questions as you like.
 
But websites like yours says i can

Hi and welcome.
I think you may be confusing this site with diabetes.org.uk.
The main thrust of the dietary information here (which has been very successful for a huge amount of Type 2's and some Type 1's) is to reduce the amount of carbohydrate in your diet to bring down your blood sugar levels.
Let me tag @daisy1 for the useful intro to low carb and also @AM1874 for tips on blood glucose meters which I would heartily recommend you get.
 
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Hi @Anamaus .. and welcome
I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb and, like you and many others, I was a bit shell-shocked with little information and no real idea of what was happening to me. That said,You have certainly made a good move coming here and you are now in the right place .. since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

You have already had some good advice from @Bluetit1802 and @bulkbiker above and the key point to take on board now is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @ daisy1 has already been tagged for you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Unless you are given one by your Doc or Nurse (unlikely), it is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 4-5 times a day .. my fasting blood sugar, then immediately before meals and two hours afterwards. This enables me to monitor trends in my blood sugar levels over time and to check which (if any) foods give me "spikes". This costs between £10 to £12 a month for either of the two meters above but, more importantly, I now know what my levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 
@Anamaus

Hello Anamaus and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope it will be helpful for you. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will reply to you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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Hiya everyone. Sorry for the late reply but been so busy with the loss of someone i hold dear. Anyway i havr been to the nurse today she gave me some great advice. Ive lost 10.llbs 4.ounces since august so im on the right track! Cutting out bread is like giving up.crack.. sorry to be blunt but i have lived on brrad all my life and its so.hard. gonna be seeing a diabetes specialist in the next few weeks to get more help. I am trying hars but i have other bad illnesses and conditions besides the type two.it just gets too much. Constantly in crippling pain so i cant get about or excersise. Or even be a good dad/husband. But I'm battling on. I WANT TO LIVE. So i will get this under control. I dont smoke drink.or do drugs. I have a lot of fat on my.liver which is another thing thats slowly getting fixed. Im now at 19 stone 5.llbs. still more to.go down yet. Im 6"5 so il never be a skinny.minnie. i honestly can't thank you for the help and continuas help you give me. I was nervous and scared of being labeled. But i feel at home.here. i jist need to figure.out how to get full from.meals. since I'm avoiding carbs now. (Eating less) Thanks again guys and gals. Ps im only 32 so i have many more years
 
Welcome to the forum and so sorry for your recent bereavement.

Read around the forum and you will learn so many tips and tricks related to eating better for type 2 diabetes. Lower carb bread and also lidl protein rolls are very popular here for many that feel the way you do.
 
Ps. Please excuse my grammar. I have a 6 year old diving on my head while trying to type

I know the feeling, but in my case it is my dog!

If you have a Lidl near you they sell high protein rolls in the fresh bread section (dark brown, seeded, and triangular in shape). They are low carb. You can slice them in half and freeze them. I have a half toasted with butter with my meals once or twice a day. They do not raise my blood sugar levels at all, and I love them. In fact, I am addicted to them.
 
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