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Rhea booth

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hiya I was diagnosed with type 2 dec last year , when I was diagnosed the diabetic nurse said my blood sugars were 10 , 3 months later at my next appointment she told me themed gone in to the 50s the next was in July I was told themed gone up againe to 65 , every one I talk to about this says the 60s is way too high , each time she highered my meds I'm now on 4 a day ya 500mg each , today I went to my latest its now at 59 she added thats 7 in old monie , and I'm also on the highest metformin I can be on ,
I'm now confused and the longer iv been home the more confused I'm getting can some one tell me what's what and let me know how bad is my bloods being in the 50s , I don't understand any of it , thank you x
 
Sounds like there's been a bit if confusion over your results. There are two types of test: a finger prick one with a glucose meter and a long term measurement called an HbA1c test.

The former would be your 10 result; the amount if glucose in your blood at that exact moment. The 50s ones would be your HbA1c measurement, which measures the amount of glucose that has stuck to your red blood cells over their lifetime of 3 months.

You can bring your levels down by cutting back on carbs. Carbs are the enemy for diabetics as they raise your sugar levels. Many of us on here follow a low carb diet, avoiding starchy carbs. It works very well.
 
Here we go hopefully in easy terms.

The HbA1c measures an average blood glucose lver approxinately the last 2 to 3 months. A non-diabetic will be under 42 and a diabetic over 48 (in between is call pre-diabetic). Your rising numbers are not good and shows that you are progressing down the standard NHS drug process until you are on insulin injections and beyond with complications etc. This value of 60 is like measuring 9.6 on your meter all the time!

You do have a blood glucose meter don't you. If not then I recommend you get one to start with. Additionally we need to get your blood glucose levels down before your levels start to do damage to your body. We can help with that but need to understand a few things:
1. What do you eat currently
2. How mobile you are
3. Do you have any medical conditions that preclude you from changing what you eat
4. How much exercise do you currently partake per week.
5. Are you overweight. Don't be embarrassed about it. It is caused by the same genes that have caused your diabetes.

The general answer will be to cut the carbs from your diet and test to see what you can eat but with the above information we can help you as much as possible.

@daisy1 will be along as well to provide you with some comprehensive information
 
Hi Rhea. welcome to the forum. As sam says trying to reduce your carbohydrate intake is worth trying. My HbA1c result went from 67 to 35 in a few months by reducing my carb intake.
 
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Hello Rhea and welcome to the forum

Here is the information, as @Andrew Colvin mentioned, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Rhea, welcome. As Sam says, you need to reduce your carbs, it sounds like you have been following NHS advice to eat carbs with every meal which is fairly unhelpful for diabetics since carbs metabolise to sugar quickly.

Not to worry, you can turn this around and reduce your meds, maybe eventually come off them altogether. I started on HbA1c of 65, and have got back to 42 on diet and exercise alone (see my sig below).

You should get yourself a glucose meter and test yourself before and after meals, this is the only way to check if what you are eating spikes you.

Read around here and ask any questions.
 
Hi rhea
Welcome to the forum
The first thing to do is not worry about your numbers with a little work you can soon see a great improvement I nearly halved mine in three months.
Ask you Dr for a printout of your test results they should give them to you.
Have a read about the forums and please feel free to ask any questions you want.
 
Welcome to the forum Rhea
 

Thank you samjB I'm looking in to a low carb diet because she said I need to loose weight too , I got confused because also when my weight was going down my blood sugar levil ( done by blood test not finger prick ) went up but having just had a 2 week Holliday my weight has gone up but my blood sugars are going down hmmmmm this dosnt make sence to me but I am a natural blond after all lol
 
Hi Rhea and welcome

It is a bit confusing but you have already received a number of excellent responses to hopefully lift the mists of confusion.

I get the impression that so far you have been a bit passive in your response to your diagnosis/treatment.

You really do need to get much more active and take control yourself.

The first thing to do is educate yourself more about this disease . I think it is unacceptable for you to be confused about your counts months after your diagnosis. Have a read around the forum and ask as many questions as you need until you are clear on what needs to be done.

Second thing to do is get yourself a glucose monitor and start monitoring your glucose by testing before and two hours after each meal. Your after count should be no more than 2 mmol of your before meal count. If you find that it is higher then you need to reduce the amount of carbs on your next meal until you are able to stay within this mmol ceiling.

The main food items that are high in carbs are bread, cereals and other grain products, rice, potatoes, pasta and of course anything with a lot of sugar in it.

Losing any excess weight and increasing your level of physical activity will also help greatly.

You need to appreciate that the improvement that medication will bring to your levels is limited. It is through lifestyle changes, improvements to your diet, weight and level of physical activity that you will be able to get on top of the diabetes.

There are plenty of very friendly, very experienced diabetics on this forum, who will be more than happy to guide you so ask as many questions as you need.

Good luck

Pavlos
 
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Hiya thank you to answer your questions
I usually have 2 shred dies for break ice , a yoghurt for snack , a brown bread sandwich for lunch , fruit for snack and something like chops with mashed collie lower and veg for evening meal , ovation ally some cereals for super , I'm no angel I do cheat now and then and have a few chips or odd bar of choc maby once a fortnight
I'm not over mobile I have ME also fibromyalgia and a degenerative lung condition , I keep fairly active around the house but doing actual exercise or taking long walks are pretty hard for me to do causing pain ect
My doc says I'm obise
I'm looking into cutting carbs down
Xx
 
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Thank you x
 
We have a few people here with Fibromyalgia so you aren't alone.

So if you are to drop some carbs and lose weight I would suggest going to just one shredded wheat make sure that the yoghurt has no sugar and is just natural (watch out for low fat). What do you have in your sandwich, one or 2 slices? Try cutting down to one and top up on lettuce or raw carrots etc. Try and drop the supper unless you need it medically. If you feel hungry try having a cup of tea or water. Something with no calories.
 
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