Thanks @Tannith . I wasn’t taking it personally, and understand anyone being anxious. It must be a dreadful choice for you to feel you have to remain indoors. I do find trying to read too many research papers would only add to my anxiety. The scientists are still learning about this new virus, and so any conclusions they reach can only be based on current, limited knowledge. As I doubt there will be a vaccine or treatment any time soon, the choice to remain indoors for as long as that takes seemed to me to be no choice at all. I am fortunate in that I actually enjoy the companionship of my significant other who, although has no underlying health conditions, has decided to protect me by being as isolated as I have been this last few months. Apart from him taking a single, lonely exercise session once a day. We are still not going to shops, or anywhere else where we would mixwith other people. We are not seeing anyone in our garden, either, and that means we cannot see our beloved grown up offspring. That is hard. Yet the small freedom of being able to walk outside for an hour or so each day has already given back some strength, physically and emotionally to carry on. Not being able to exercise and have a change of scenery was, to me, sapping my will to live. I could sense I was going to wither away, unseen in my home. That can’t be ok.Sorry Pipp, I didn't mean that as a criticism of you personally at all. For "go out as you did before"read "go out as one did before". I meant it as a general caveat. Today I have found this Lancet article on line, published yesterday. I find it quite frightening.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...ampaign=tlcoronavirus20&utm_content=130807822"that even a combination of moderate interventions—such as school closures, shielding of older people, and self-isolation of symptomatic individuals—would be unlikely to prevent an epidemic that would far exceed available intensive care unit capacity in the UK. Intermittent periods of more intensive lockdown-type measures are predicted to be effective for preventing the health-care system from being overwhelmed"
Excellent article A reference in the topics list at the bottom to respiratory illness and the degree of their severity in relation to covid risk was: https://alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/respiratory-conditions-and-covid-19/Wondering is anyone has seen this? Interesting in perhaps moving away from the one size fits all approach. Fully appreciate that there are many on this forum at higher risk so its not in anyway to come across as insensitive. Just shows varying degrees of risk in line with the recent NHS studies. It's about risk assessment and potential return to work but would ultimately apply to decisions around shielding too?
Fully appreciate risk will never be zero and doesn't guarantee outcome but it helps shape out everyday decisions I guess
https://alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
It has always been allowed, just not advised. Do you suddenly feel safer than you were before?New I have been out for a walk every day now since Monday, as that is what Boris told us was allowed.
I have been out for a walk every day now since Monday, as that is what Boris told us was allowed.
However, I have had no communication from NHS or GP in a follow up letter, and not received a text message, either. So, just wondering if anyone else that had previously had the letters and texts has had any further communications since Boris told us we were now able to go out if we had been shielding?
Why don't I find that reassuring?Boris has spoken
My point exactly...It has always been allowed, just not advised. Do you suddenly feel safer than you were before?
My point exactly...
Full context of my previous post is that I was given instructions in two letters and several texts to stay at home. Same as the instructions in the broadcast messages. Though there have been no follow up messages in letters or messages. So, according to Boris, it is now safe for me to go out. According to the NHS letters, and text messages, I am advised to stay home until at least 30th June. I place trust neither, and make my own decision. As for suddenly feeling safer than before, I am quite ambivalent about it.
Also, I still am wondering anyone else has had a letter or text confirming what Boris said about those shielding could now go out?
It has always been allowed, just not advised. Do you suddenly feel safer than you were before?
Yes, thanks.I do follow the government publications.Pipp - Not sure if you have seen this, but it's the official line:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19
I’m wondering if the South West figures, which still has the lowest number of cases, has been affected by the people flocking to the beaches and the Covid outbreak at Weston Hospital.Troubling is the fact that the R number is now above one in the Northwest and the South West of England so do those statistics hold true homogeneously across the country.
I have no doubt it has been influenced by hot sunny bank holiday and half term and people feeling able to drive longer distances. Many reports of complacency and no social distancing in seaside resorts and national parks for example, and while we shouldn't be going to holiday or second homes it isn't being discouraged as strongly as before so this will all play a part I'm sure.I’m wondering if the South West figures, which still has the lowest number of cases, has been affected by the people flocking to the beaches and the Covid outbreak at Weston Hospital.
The last set of ramdom tests of the population showed about 1 in 1000 infection rate, and some of these people will be self ioslating, hence the risk of a ramdom person you walk past being infected is under 1 in 1000.
"After 10 weeks, shielders in England and Wales have been told they can leave their homes, providing they maintain social distancing while out.It has always been allowed, just not advised. Do you suddenly feel safer than you were before?
"After 10 weeks, shielders in England and Wales have been told they can leave their homes, providing they maintain social distancing while out.
... The UK government initially said on 31 May that it was because “covid-19 disease levels are substantially lower now than when shielding was first introduced”.
But that was wrong. While infections are falling, the UK is still seeing about 1500 new confirmed cases a day, compared with about 1000 a day in March, when the first letters were sent to shielders. The total number of new cases a day is likely to have been higher in both March and May, as not everyone gets tested."
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...rs-in-the-uk-to-go-outside-now/#ixzz6Otn6lA9b
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