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Dawn phenomenon

Hobo1978

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Anyone got any good tips on helping this?! 2 hours after breakfast, my bs is always below 8 so I'm happy there as I don't think that's too bad?

But the fasting one every morning is always around 10 which I just can't seem to get lower.

I was thinking about maybe (I take 1 metformin a day) moving my metformin to just before bed.

Anyone got any tips?

Thanks
 
Can I ask what you are before you go to bed, what time you last ate carbs, and if you had anything before bed?
 
I get this too... I've heard people on here talking about 'liver dumps' and eating cheese before bedtime.
I'm sure someone will be along in a minute...
 
Before I go to bed I'm usually somewhere between 6-7
 
Usually my last food would be dinner about 7. Meat or fish and veg

As low carb as poss
 
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What I found most effective for me was to skip a couple of dinner. Also known as intermittent fasting.
 
I get it too. If you find a way to make it stop please let me know because it is so irritating.

The only time it doesn't rise is if I've fasted the day before - and even that's not guaranteed.
 
Hobo1978 said:
I was thinking about maybe (I take 1 metformin a day) moving my metformin to just before bed.
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I'm in the same boat, always 10-11 in the morning, then slowly going down during the day.

Metformin isn't fast-acting ... it has to accumulate over the course of several weeks to start having an effect. I think it's generally taken in the morning to avoid the side-effects hitting while trying to sleep So it won't make it more effective to take it at night.
 
Some people split their metformin between morning and evening but it didn't make the slightest difference when I tried it (apart from a touch of tummy bubble).

Mine is a little bit raised when I get up and carries on climbing until late morning when it will slowly come down until it's quite low just before dinner. The only thing that will stop it climbing is a huge low carb breakfast which I do have at the weekends but can't be bothered with during the week.
 
Most days I'll have a few rashers or scrambled eggs. Trouble is, that can't be god for cholesterol can it?
 
Hobo1978 said:
Most days I'll have a few rashers or scrambled eggs. Trouble is, that can't be god for cholesterol can it?
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Standards for levels of cholesterol are ridiculously strict. There's widespread pressure from the scientific community to raise it considerably, or remove those limits entirely. It sounds like dietary cholesterol was restricted so much due to the mistaken belief that it raises cholesterol in the blood, but that's only true for a minority of people.

The major source of cholesterol is synthesized by our own bodies, not consumed in food, and problems with excessive cholesterol levels are typically genetic. To quote Wikipedia:

Furthermore, consumed cholesterol is poorly absorbed, meaning it pretty much goes in one end and out the other. Most of it isn't making it into the blood stream, and we naturally compensate for absorbed cholesterol by producing less of our own.

Eat them eggs!
 
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Hobo1978 said:
Trouble is, that can't be god for cholesterol can it?
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The eggs will be fine, some research at Surrey University where they made victims, sorry test subjects aka students, eat at least 2 eggs every day for many weeks, show no changes in their total cholesterol levels. I believe that the general thought on eating cholesterol is that it doesn't affect the body's cholesterol levels. Even Ancel Keys who most people blame for the low fat diet (not 100% correct, but . . . . . ) said “from these animal experiments only, the most reasonable conclusion would be that the cholesterol content of human diets is unimportant in human atherosclerosis.”

As for the bacon? How much? How Lean? How cooked? More questions than answers.
 
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