Dietary And Nutritional Approaches For Prevention And Management Of Type 2 Diabetes

HSSS said:

I’m doing no such thing.

Lack of education or information, an historical faith in drs just because they are doctors, a non questioning view of current advice, a fatalist outlook, poverty, lack of support, other lifestyle and medical issues all affect non compliance and motivation. It’s the reality of life.

And trying to deflect by saying I’m victim blaming is frankly either over sensitive or defensive. Those who genuinely can’t be bothered are a minority of unsuccessful people imo.

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Guzzler said:

The Virta study, 83% proved compliance. A fact completely ignored at the Swiss Re Conference because the establishment resist change imo. Dr. David Unwin's question from the audience on n=1 results and how this can or should reflect on information brought to the table again dismissed because of lack of numbers and a disdain of patient self reporting. Suffice to say imo that their rodent trials mean more to them than IRL results with humans that they challenge because we humans sometimes just plain ol' refuse to react in the expected fashion.

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HSSS said:

I’m not familiar with that study and it’s great that compliance was so high. My point still stands that I believe those who don’t comply are not “failing” due to not bothering in most cases but for other factors. Therefore I’m not victim blaming but in fact stating it’s not their fault.

IMO they like rodent studies because they are controlled and repeatable and evidence based. IRL anecdotal results which quite possible just as true or accurate are subjective, not in controlled circumstance, hard to replicate in all facets and hard to identify exactly which actions caused which results. Doesn’t mean something didn’t work but to base population wide advice they have to know what and how. Frustratingly slow I agree but the same with all medicine

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Guzzler said:

My point is about reevaluating and challenging dogma. I could cite emerging statistics on sat fat wrt cardiovascular disease or the evidence on statins or the CoI wrt Big Food/Pharma but to be honest I cba.

Zoe Harcombe has put it far better than I ever could.

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Guzzler said:

My point is about reevaluating and challenging dogma. I could cite emerging statistics on sat fat wrt cardiovascular disease or the evidence on statins or the CoI wrt Big Food/Pharma but to be honest I cba.

Zoe Harcombe has put it far better than I ever could.

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HSSS said:

Absolutely loved that video. Very rarely watch embedded clips but this was very worthwhile. I have an evangelical urge to go educate the world .

Seriously though if anyone knows how as a newcomer to diabetes and without much formal higher education (circumstances not ability limited me) I can do positive things hit me with ideas. I’d like to make this diagnosis into something positive.

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Guzzler said:

All I can suggest, as an ill educated old woman, is that you spread the word. By that I mean advise family and freinds to look a little deeper, learn a little more and question everything.

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HSSS said:

I'm assuming the intended reaction was rather than And surely there’s something more than that I can do without a university degree, the lack of which doesn’t make a person stupid.

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