Gaz-M
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I had my contour meter changed to a Pura meter. It was a piece of rubbish and gave very misleading results... I ended up buying my own contour test strips to get some control of my blood glucose levels.So I was at the hospital yesterday giving my bloods and chatting to the nurse, I told her my needles had been changed and she asked if my meter had been.
It has not as of yet, but she said Drs have been told to change meters to a more "cheaper" one to help with the nhs costs
Anyone else had this yet ?
So I was at the hospital yesterday giving my bloods and chatting to the nurse, I told her my needles had been changed and she asked if my meter had been.
It has not as of yet, but she said Drs have been told to change meters to a more "cheaper" one to help with the nhs costs
Anyone else had this yet ?
I notice now that there are at least two adverts (in Diabetics.co.uk) for free meters. Presumably the companies making the readers get their money via the sale of blood sample strips. I should think that indiviual practices and surgery's fund the cost and make the decisions on which readers' they use. My practice nurse gave a 'freebe' given her by a Medical rep.So I was at the hospital yesterday giving my bloods and chatting to the nurse, I told her my needles had been changed and she asked if my meter had been.
It has not as of yet, but she said Drs have been told to change meters to a more "cheaper" one to help with the nhs costs
Anyone else had this yet ?
I'm not sure, but I think it has something to do with how many "messages" you have. I only joined in February 2015, but am no longer classified as a new member.My surgery asked me to go onto the Wavesense Jazz. Suspect it was for the cost of strips. Been on it for some time now, possibly a couple of years.
When do I not become a "new" member, been a member since 2008
my doctors also sending letters out to diabetic patiences, there giving out new meters there said the nhs were issueing only one meter to all diabetics the meters are called ELEMENT meters and test strips and GREENIAN lancetsThere has been a number of threads on the changing of meters, I I'll just give a quick synopsis:
The meter and strip issue is nationwide, with different areas choosing different and very much cheaper ones to cost save.
Meters and strips for Type 2 are usually not prescribed anymore , some GPS are more enlightened than others, but they seem to be increasingly rare.
If you are a Type 1 and your original meter was given you or prescribed by your hospital diabetes team, you have a far better chance of retaining the strips prescription if you contact your team, and ask them to write to your GP to ask that your current prescription remains the same. They may even do this if you are demonstrating good control, even if the meter you are using was not given by them.
There isn't a blanket ban on all non NHSmeters and strips, there are still some ( that vary according to your area) where prescribing is discretionary. It is worth researching what there are in your area. But, unless you can demonstrate that you have a real need for a certain meter and strips on the discretionary list, that differs from your current one that is NOT on it, then you may have a struggle on your hands without back up from a hospital team.
@Amrit1712 , you should still be able to get your strips prescribed because it was given you by your DSN for a specific purpose, but be proactive and contact your team with your concerns and get a letter in the process.
Signy
my doctors also sending letters out to diabetic patiences, there giving out new meters there said the nhs were issueing only one meter to all diabetics the meters are called ELEMENT meters and test strips and GREENIAN lancets
I was made to use a wavesense jazz by my surgery. It was the biggest load of rubbish out. Firstly if I was out walking even if it wasn't cold, I just kept getting error 4 messages - ambient temperature not in range! This was quite annoying because then I had to intuit where I was. I was fairly accurate at that before using this meter which gave me the most random readings. To cut a long story short, it caused me a lot of problems, made me pretty ill and the resulting fluctuations caused eye damage, which is thankfully stable now. I've now been allowed to choose my meter and I also now have a really good specialist diabetic nurse, which is a very welcome first. Trying to cut costs by making patients use inferior equipment will be much more costly in the long run. My surgery also wanted me to have better blood glucose control but to use less testing strips!! How?! With good machine, vegan diet and good support, BG levels are getting pretty good.It depends on your area , where you are in the country. Different health authorities have chosen different meters, here in Northumberland you have a choice between the Element and Glucolab , but I believe it is a different choice in Tyneside and elsewhere across the country. The meters on the discretionary list for Northumberland are Bayer, Abbott Freestyle others used together with a pump and another I can't remember the name of for visually impaired people. This list will probably differ elsewhere .
The one thing in common nationwide is that the meters chosen are cheap, and the test strips are cheaper, none of the names we are used to are being prescribed. Having said that, after a sensible discussion with my practice manager and some hard data as to the accuracy ( not!) of the Glucolab, I still have my Contour and strips and lancets are still being prescribed and will remain so.
I think what annoys me and many others was the lack of consultation with the end users, us. The choices made were determined by cost and the meters and strips barely scraping through the standards required.My findings when trialling was that the new meters compared badly in accuracy, sometimes dangerously so if the readings given were used to calculate insulin doses or determine a safe driving level. In addition, the strip errors were greatly increased, leading to strip wastage . I've been told unofficially that HCP's in this area are unhappy with the performance of the chosen meters.
Having said all that, some members on here have used them and found that they suited their needs. I fully support the need to keep prescribing costs down ( apart from my issue concerning long term effects of non prescription for Type 2's) which is why I agreed to trial the meters when they were rolled out in this area.
Signy
Just curious, why did you think the neo was rubbish? Seems to give very accurate readings...the postcode lottery is in definite existence-- where i live so far my meter has not been mentioned in terms of changing (abbott optium -- freestyle , Neo , exceed )
exceed was not so great , neo was rubbish but my basic optium freestyle has served me well for years
my DSN gave me all 3 from hospital
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